Six great twentieth century fifth symphonies excluding Sibelius and Shostakovich

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ComposerOfAvantGarde

#40
January 30, 2017, 04:00:24 PM
Quote from: Maestro267 on January 30, 2017, 11:53:37 AM
I enjoy his Symphony No. 5 a lot*. As for No. 3, he started it in 1988, 8 years after No. 2, but before finishing it in 1995, his 4th (1989) and 5th (1992) Symphonies came and went.

EDIT (after listening to it again, inspired by this): Strike that. I LOVE this symphony! Magnificent orchestration (antiphonal percussion, dramatic "screeches" on the strings, like the stabs from Le Sacre but with more OOMPH!), great contrast between slow and fast passages, just wonderful!
I should check it out. I've been listening to a bit of Penderecki here and there and I've been growing fonder of neo-romantics like him and Rihm. Maybe I have listened to it once before but I can't remember. 

André

#41
January 30, 2017, 04:50:55 PM Last Edit: January 30, 2017, 04:56:02 PM by André
I don't think I'll include Mahler's, as his works straddle 2 centuries almost equally (10 years in XIX, 10 years in XX).

Vainberg (aka Weinberg)
Prokofiev
Silvestrov
Arnold
Kancheli
Atterberg (funebre)

My list is heavily ex-USSR biased  :D

Of course Vaughan-Williams should also be included, but he kind of spoiled his effects by recycling important themes of Pilgrim's Progress  in that work. Also, Nielsen, Tournemire, Milhaud, Shebalin, Nystroem. All are worthy of a regular spin.

vandermolen

#42
February 01, 2017, 02:19:01 PM
Quote from: André on January 30, 2017, 04:50:55 PM
I don't think I'll include Mahler's, as his works straddle 2 centuries almost equally (10 years in XIX, 10 years in XX).

Vainberg (aka Weinberg)
Prokofiev
Silvestrov
Arnold
Kancheli
Atterberg (funebre)

My list is heavily ex-USSR biased  :D

Of course Vaughan-Williams should also be included, but he kind of spoiled his effects by recycling important themes of Pilgrim's Progress  in that work. Also, Nielsen, Tournemire, Milhaud, Shebalin, Nystroem. All are worthy of a regular spin.
A great selection   :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mirror Image

#43
February 02, 2017, 07:29:02 PM
Quote from: André on January 30, 2017, 04:50:55 PMOf course Vaughan Williams should also be included, but he kind of spoiled his effects by recycling important themes of Pilgrim's Progress in that work.

This doesn't lessen the appeal and beauty of the 5th for me at all. It's still a work I hold in high regard and have for seven years now.

Rons_talking

#44
February 09, 2017, 03:17:24 AM
RVW
Silvestrov
Roger Sessions
Milhaud (I'm probably the only one to select this, but I really like it)
William Schuman
Rautavaara

vandermolen

#45
February 10, 2017, 12:13:08 AM
Quote from: Rons_talking on February 09, 2017, 03:17:24 AM
RVW
Silvestrov
Roger Sessions
Milhaud (I'm probably the only one to select this, but I really like it)
William Schuman
Rautavaara
V interesting choices - I have a boxed set of the Milhaud symphonies so I must fish out Symphony 5.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

kyjo

#46
September 24, 2017, 01:37:49 PM
Nielsen
Prokofiev
Arnold
Mennin
Atterberg
Schulhoff

Honorable mentions: Rubbra, Hanson, Vaughan Williams (hasn't completely grown on me yet)
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

kyjo

#49
September 24, 2017, 08:26:55 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 24, 2017, 02:23:42 PM
:o

What's your favorite recording of the RVW 5th, John? I'm planning on revisiting it sometime soon.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Mirror Image

#50
September 24, 2017, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: kyjo on September 24, 2017, 08:26:55 PM
What's your favorite recording of the RVW 5th, John? I'm planning on revisiting it sometime soon.

Previn's LSO recording on RCA. This is the one that gets it 'right' IMHO. But there are a few performances I enjoy almost equally as Previn's.

Christo

#51
September 24, 2017, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: Christo on January 16, 2017, 11:39:38 PMSome rather usual suspects (and BTW: love Tubin, but not his Fifth, though I even heard it live):

Nielsen
RVW
Holmboe
Tournemire
Honegger
Arnold

Nothing really changed, though I would like to honourably mention:

Herman Koppel
Joly Braga Santos
Erkki Melartin
Bohuslav Martinů
Camargo Guarnieri
Pyotr Ilich Tchaikovsky
Einar Englund
Ludwig van Beethoven
Gustav Mahler
William Schuman
Dmitri Shostakovich
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

#52
September 25, 2017, 04:12:15 AM Last Edit: September 25, 2017, 04:15:11 AM by vandermolen
Tournemire
Kabelac
Peterson-Berger
Eshpai
Rubbra
Alwyn

New list
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Karl Henning

#53
September 25, 2017, 05:33:08 AM
Prokofiev (obviously)
RVW (equally obviously)
Nielsen (ditto)
Mennin
Schuman
Piston
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mirror Image

#54
September 25, 2017, 07:42:21 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2017, 05:33:08 AM
Prokofiev (obviously)
RVW (equally obviously)
Nielsen (ditto)
Mennin
Schuman
Piston

Surprised to see Schuman on there. Not that his 5th is a bad work of course. Given it's written for a string orchestra, it's a nice change of pace for him after his 4th.

Ken B

#55
September 25, 2017, 08:56:14 AM
Is this one per composer?

The first three are obvious
Mahler
RVW
Nielsen

Lots of good choices for the next 3 but none quite so obvious

Martinu
Weinberg (I think, still new to me so uncertain here)
Atterberg



Karl Henning

#57
September 25, 2017, 08:58:53 AM
Quote from: Ken B on September 25, 2017, 08:57:30 AM
Mahler is obviously not?

I plead impossibility of the mission, sir.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

#58
September 25, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: Ken B on September 25, 2017, 08:57:30 AM
Mahler is obviously not?
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 17, 2017, 02:16:49 AM
Prokofiev
Nielsen
Mennin
Schuman
Tubin
Vaughan Williams

A bit of a wrench to omit the Mahler.

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Karl Henning

#59
September 25, 2017, 09:17:35 AM
Thanks for looking out for me, Karlo   0:)

(And leave it to me to vote twice . . . but never on the same day!)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot
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