What are your top 5 favorite 20th century choral/orchestral works?

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relm1

#40
April 19, 2017, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: Cato on April 19, 2017, 04:22:36 AM
Dudes!  Unless my eyes missed it, how is it possible that nobody has yet mentioned the GREATEST SEVEN MINUTES IN CHORAL MUSIC EVER?!!!  

https://www.youtube.com/v/3imEtW-4v80

Darn, forgot this one!  I love it too!

relm1

#41
April 19, 2017, 04:10:23 PM
What do you folks think of Stravinsky's "The King of the Stars"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2t46RKOp-g

SymphonicAddict

#42
April 19, 2017, 04:52:08 PM
Quote from: Cato on April 19, 2017, 04:22:36 AM
Dudes!  Unless my eyes missed it, how is it possible that nobody has yet mentioned the GREATEST SEVEN MINUTES IN CHORAL MUSIC EVER?!!!  

https://www.youtube.com/v/3imEtW-4v80

I haven't heard it yet, but as you said it seems so appealing for me!

Mahlerian

#43
April 19, 2017, 05:14:17 PM
Quote from: relm1 on April 19, 2017, 04:10:23 PM
What do you folks think of Stravinsky's "The King of the Stars"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2t46RKOp-g

A quite unique piece in his output, not really comparable to anything else he wrote.  I enjoy it a lot, but I chose another Stravinsky work, because he wrote several great ones for this combination.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

springrite

#44
April 19, 2017, 05:39:47 PM Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 06:17:06 PM by springrite
Schmidt: Book of the Seven Seals

Stravinsky: Symphony of Psalms

Britten: War Requiem

Sallinen: Songs of Life and Death

I will add the Ligeti Requiem to complete my top FIVE.

Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Karl Henning

#45
April 19, 2017, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: arpeggio on April 18, 2017, 04:56:01 AM
There is also a work of Milhaud that blows me away: Les choëphores

An unusual work that the recording for is out of print is William Schuman's Concerto on Old English Rounds for Viola, Women's Chorus and Orchestra.

Nice!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#46
April 19, 2017, 11:44:35 PM
Ah, I have that Milhaud work which arpeggio mentioned - must listen to it again. On an old Igor Markevitch DGG CD I think.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#47
April 27, 2017, 01:37:57 PM
Quote from: Christo on April 17, 2017, 10:05:16 PM
It is, quietly devastating in parts. Curiously, it's also the only piece by this composer that's widely known.

Five surviving mammoths (thanks, sarge):
Vaughan Williams:  A Sea Symphony (1909)
Rudolf Tobias: Des Jona Sendung (1909)
Havergal Brian: Symphony No. 1 'Gothic (1926)
Franz Schmidt:  Das Buch mit sieben Siegeln (1937)
Benjamin Britten:  War Requiem (1962)
A vote from me to for the Franz Schmidt 'Das Buch kit sieben Siegeln' which I heard right through for the first time this evening.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

#48
April 27, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 27, 2017, 01:37:57 PM
A vote from me to for the Franz Schmidt 'Das Buch kit sieben Siegeln' which I heard right through for the first time this evening.

Excellent! Which performance did you hear?

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

vandermolen

#49
April 27, 2017, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 27, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Excellent! Which performance did you hear?

Sarge

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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

springrite

#50
April 27, 2017, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 27, 2017, 04:52:57 PM
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Yes, this is the one I have, though a slightly earlier incarnation, and was recommended by Jim Svejda.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

SymphonicAddict

#51
April 27, 2017, 08:08:51 PM
About this oratorio by Schmidt, which recording do you recommend most?


Harnoncourt with the Wiener Philharmoniker, etc. (Teldec)

or

Welser-Möst with the Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, etc. (EMI)

Thanks for your comments.

vandermolen

#52
April 27, 2017, 09:33:47 PM Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 09:36:09 PM by vandermolen
Quote from: SymphonicAddict on April 27, 2017, 08:08:51 PM
About this oratorio by Schmidt, which recording do you recommend most?


Harnoncourt with the Wiener Philharmoniker, etc. (Teldec)

or

Welser-Möst with the Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, etc. (EMI)

Thanks for your comments.
I only know the one I posted above (Welser-Most). I think the cover image is great!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Christo

#53
April 28, 2017, 12:13:50 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 27, 2017, 09:33:47 PMI only know the one I posted above (Welser-Most). I think the cover image is great!

Not so well-known is his final Deutsche Auferstehung (German Resurrection) for soloists, choir, organ and orchestra from 1938–39, premiered in Vienna in 1940 and ending with a rousing ('Sieg Heil!') glorification of the new Reich. Things are a bit more complicated than that, however, and there are good reasons to exempt Schmidt - who was partly Slovak-Hungarian and even Hungarian speaking after all - from his alleged nazism.
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Karl Henning

#54
April 28, 2017, 04:57:26 AM

Quote from: vandermolen on April 27, 2017, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 27, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Excellent! Which performance did you hear?

Sarge

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All right, gents; I agree that it is high time . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#55
April 28, 2017, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: Christo on April 28, 2017, 12:13:50 AM
Not so well-known is his final Deutsche Auferstehung (German Resurrection) for soloists, choir, organ and orchestra from 1938–39, premiered in Vienna in 1940 and ending with a rousing ('Sieg Heil!') glorification of the new Reich. Things are a bit more complicated than that, however, and there are good reasons to exempt Schmidt - who was partly Slovak-Hungarian and even Hungarian speaking after all - from his alleged nazism.
Yes, I've been reading about this. Apparently most of his musical friends were Jewish and he recommended, to a group of Nazi supporting students, that they look at an Overture on Jewish Themes written by one of his jewish students. He apparently gave up working on the 'German Resurrection' to compose a work for Paul Wittgenstein the Jewish born pianist who had lost an arm in the First World War. It seems that Schmidt was rather naive and was used by the Nazis rather than being a true supporter.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Maestro267

#56
May 07, 2017, 12:19:51 AM
Elgar: The Apostles
Vaughan Williams: A Sea Symphony
Brian: Symphony No. 1, "The Gothic"
Bernstein: Mass
Lloyd: A Symphonic Mass

Christo

#57
May 07, 2017, 01:28:29 AM Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 12:23:47 PM by Christo
Quote from: Maestro267 on May 07, 2017, 12:19:51 AMBernstein: Mass
Shared tWo of your other faves in my own list, but should have listed Bernstein's Mass too. Great piece.  :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

#58
May 08, 2017, 06:36:07 AM
Quote from: Maestro267 on May 07, 2017, 12:19:51 AM
Elgar: The Apostles
Vaughan Williams: A Sea Symphony
Brian: Symphony No. 1, "The Gothic"
Bernstein: Mass
Lloyd: A Symphonic Mass
Must listen to the Bernstein again. Agree with the VW and HB choices. I have a CD of the Lloyd Mass so must listen to that as well.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Gaspard de la nuit

#59
July 01, 2017, 08:04:33 AM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on April 19, 2017, 06:38:16 AM
Dutilleux - The Shadows of Time
Ligeti - Clocks & Clouds
Messiaen - Trois petites liturgies de la présence divine
Schnittke - Requiem
Stravinsky - Symphony of Psalms

Love this list!  Though, I'd probably switch out the Schnittke for the Glagolitic Mass or Berio's Sinfonia. Still, this list is awfully close to my own.
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