Music For or About Children and Childhood

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Florestan

Aside from the big names and their warhorses, what other works of this kind are worth checking out? Do you have any favorites (big names and their warhorses included, this time)?
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

North Star

Obviously among my favourites: Ravel's Ma mère l'Oye and L'enfant et les sortilèges. Schumann's Kinderszenen too. And Berlioz's L'enfance du Christ  0:)
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Sergeant Rock

Elgar Wand of Youth, Dream Children and Nursery Suite.

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mc ukrneal

Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 01:32:59 AM
Aside from the big names and their warhorses, what other works of this kind are worth checking out? Do you have any favorites (big names and their warhorses included, this time)?
Assuming you mean the Prokofiev and Saint-Saens here (and not replicating what's already been said):
Tchaikovsky: Album pour enfants
Chaminade: Album pour enfants
Debussy: Children's Corner
Bizet: Jeux d'enfants

This album would be an ideal starting point for this sort of thing:
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Ligeti - Lontano (the opening and closing of "a window on long submerged dream worlds of childhood")
Stockhausen - Gesang der Jungling


But Kinderszenen is the first and greatest

Karl Henning

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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Thank you all for the recs, will check them asap.

By big names I meant Schumann, Faure, Ravel, Prokofiev, Saint-Saens, maybe even Bizet and Tchaikovsky.

Heitor Villa-Lobos has two nice piano suites titled A prole do bebe (The baby's family).

There's also Mendelssohn's  Kinderstücke op. 72, Deodat de Severac's En vacances (premier recueil) and Le soldat de plomb --- I highly recommend them.

My all time favorites are Kinderszenen, Album fur de Jugend, Dolly, Jeux d'enfants (Bizet) and the above mentioned En vacances

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 18, 2017, 09:45:48 AM
Bartók, A Gyermekeknek, of course.

That should indeed be a beauty. Must check my Kocsis set soon.  8)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Spineur

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got this one recently.  Very nice


and if you havent seen suzie tempelton anime on peter and the wolf, you must remedy this subito presto


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Florestan

Quote from: Spineur on May 18, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
got this one recently.  Very nice


Wishlisted.

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and if you havent seen suzie tempelton anime on peter and the wolf, you must remedy this subito presto


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Wow! Looks like something my 4-year son who is quite fond of anime might be interested in! Thanks a lot for that!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Cato

Is there an age "window" ?

My 6th Graders have heard Mozart's Waisenhausmesse (composed when he was 11 or 12) and excerpts from his opera Apollo et Hyacinthus.

How about the Franz Von Suppe' overtures, which appeared in a good number of classic cartoons?

You could of course visit the Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, and Walter Lantz cartoons of the 1930's, 1940's and early 1950's for all kinds of Classical Kids stuff!

But if you just want them to hear the music, people have put together medleys on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/v/GrjxtNYhTCc


https://www.youtube.com/v/R7gNNA-GdsA

And of course...Bugs Bunny as Leopold!!!

https://archive.org/details/LongHairedHare




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Florestan

Quote from: Cato on May 18, 2017, 10:51:10 AM
My 6th Graders have heard Mozart's Waisenhausmesse (composed when he was 11 or 12) and excerpts from his opera Apollo et Hyacinthus.

This is music by, not for or about, a child.  ;D

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How about the Franz Von Suppe' overtures, which appeared in a good number of classic cartoons?

Were they written expressly for, or about, children?  ;D

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Cato

Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 10:58:50 AM

Were they written expressly for, or about, children?  ;D


Well, as far as I know, the answer is yes for the Mozart works (the opera was for a school play, and the Mass was for the orphans and their new chapel, and apparently the music was sung at the premiere by a choir of orphans conducted by the 12-year old composer) and "sort of yes"  $:) for the latter, as a number of von Suppe overtures have found their way into children's cartoons. 0:)

Check out John Zorn's Cat o' Nine Tails, influenced by cartoon music:

https://www.youtube.com/v/rLp_1xh34X0





"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

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a little darker, Dutilleux's Shadows of Time was written in memory of Anne Frank and other children lost in the Holocaust

North Star

Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 18, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
a little darker, Dutilleux's Shadows of Time was written in memory of Anne Frank and other children lost in the Holocaust
Oh, that reminds me of Hans Krása's Brundibár - children's opera performed by the children in Theresienstadt.
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DaveF

Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)
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Spineur

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Quote from: DaveF on May 18, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)
The golden vanity is really a piece for children.  It is included in this CD which has Dutilleux carnet de bord also an easy choral work for children.  Thee Daniel-Lesur on this disk is an adaptation of folk songs.


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Quote from: DaveF on May 18, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)


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