Bach Chamber and Instrumental music

Started by Que, May 24, 2007, 11:21:14 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Mandryka

#360
I didn't know about this organ and violin recording from Lotsberg and Nordstoga.




(Includes the version of 1019 with the keyboard solo, and yes, it works well on an organ  :))
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mandryka




On this recording Ditta Rohmann plays a violoncello piccolo and Laszlo Fassang plays a Hungarian neo-baroque organ with a modified Bradley Lehman tuning. They include a couple of violin sonatas and a flute sonata - I thought that the performances were delightful - very natural and right sounding, modest in that nothing sounded intrusive, and clearly anything but mainstream.

She's recorded the 6th cello suite on the violoncello piccolo, by the way, and she says the experience inspired her to explore the possibilities further.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

milk

I wonder if the lautenwerk could be employed in any of these chamber works. Or is it too soft?

Wakefield

#363
Quote from: milk on May 10, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
I wonder if the lautenwerk could be employed in any of these chamber works. Or is it too soft?

Not the sonatas & partitas, but I love this disk:



https://goo.gl/yP1PLK

The blending between the instruments is, IMO, perfect.  :)
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

milk

Quote from: Gordo on May 10, 2018, 04:55:24 PM
Not the sonatas & partitas, but I love this disk:



https://goo.gl/yP1PLK

The blending between the instruments is, IMO, perfect.  :)
Huh. Somehow I already have this in my collection but never listened to it. Here I go...

Wakefield

Quote from: milk on May 11, 2018, 12:21:27 AM
Huh. Somehow I already have this in my collection but never listened to it. Here I go...

Fantastic! You had a true hidden treasure there.
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

Mandryka

This is Pletnev with one of the concertos in 2005,  loads of character and I'd say not too self conscious, it just doesn't sound like what I expect a baroque concerto to sound like

https://youtube.com/v/YeAhem1Pbwk
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mandryka

Quote from: Gordo on May 10, 2018, 04:55:24 PM
Not the sonatas & partitas, but I love this disk:



https://goo.gl/yP1PLK

The blending between the instruments is, IMO, perfect.  :)

Yes, the harpsichord seems to penetrate the gamba very nicely. Ekkehard Weber recorded some excellent Purcell too.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen


Mandryka

#369


Goebel Hill Linden, 1019, a short ride in a fast machine. Followed by



Fernandez Alard 1019, unlistenable. Slow.

And then followed by



Hobarth Hakkinen 1019. Graceless, ugly, vulgar - pounding harpsichord and mawkish violin. Beer hall Bach.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mandryka

#370
Quote from: Mandryka on March 22, 2018, 10:16:22 PM
I didn't know about this organ and violin recording from Lotsberg and Nordstoga.




(Includes the version of 1019 with the keyboard solo, and yes, it works well on an organ  :))

This is particularly beautiful in the slower movements, I think it's a very worthwhile recording. Having said that, I wish the organ were a bit more in the foreground sometimes, but it don't want to find fault.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

bioluminescentsquid

Quote from: Mandryka on August 23, 2018, 09:59:52 PM
And then followed by



Hobarth Hakkinen 1019. Graceless, ugly, vulgar - pounding harpsichord and mawkish violin. Beer hall Bach.

Really? I liked this one!

Mandryka

#372
Quote from: bioluminescentsquid on September 01, 2018, 02:40:55 PM
Really? I liked this one!

Well I've tried many times and I can't handle it, for the reasons stated.  I'm not very positive about Hakkinen's recent output -- this and the Byrd. And the violinist on that thing is . . . well . . . graceless and vulgar.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

milk


This is not for everyone of course; I posted this somewhere else I think. But I find this quite enjoyable. Usually, I have a low tolerance to modern violin but this is done very tastefully IMO. It's certainly not as convincing as several of the great recordings done w/cembalo (the violin is not thick as it should be maybe) but the vibrato is kept to a minimum and there is a baroque feel to it stylistically. Best of all, you can hear the counterpoint with the piano cutting through so clearly in a way I've not heard it before. I think you get/hear something different w/piano. Perhaps someone on here will take a listen and tell me what they think.

milk


JBS

Quote from: milk on November 15, 2018, 05:24:27 PM
these are brilliant.

Listening to his recording of the S&Ps for the first time even as I type this.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Ras

This for me is album of the year 2018:

[asin]B077PP5G6G[/asin]
"Music is life and, like it, inextinguishable." - Carl Nielsen

Ras

Quote from: milk on November 18, 2018, 04:47:05 AM
I'm going to be listening to this soon. So it's getting to the end of 2018: looking forward to the best of threads.

I think I know which thread you mean, milk
Is it too early if you start a ''best of 2018" thread now?
"Music is life and, like it, inextinguishable." - Carl Nielsen

milk

#378
Quote from: Ras on November 18, 2018, 05:00:50 AM
I think I know which thread you mean, milk
Is it too early if you start a ''best of 2018" thread now?
I don't want to start a club that would have me as a member.  ;D I'm waiting for someone else.  Edit: honestly I get a little confused about the several different varieties of posts accounting for year-end lists.

Herman

Quote from: Mandryka on March 02, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/Lzlqtpa2wSQ
He is adamant that Bach is writing for harpsichord and violin. His"argument" seems to rest on the third movement of the e major and the first movement of the b minor, where he asserts that it's "very clear that Bach is writing for the harpsichord", a style of writing which he seems to oppose to three voiced counterpoint, where violin is as important as the keyboard.


I agree, it's not quite clear what Bezuidenhout is trying to say, other than that it's fabulous writing, and that he really likes the keynoard part. He ends saying these are specifically chambermusic pieces and not for the concert hall. But that should go without saying.