The Best

Started by MN Dave, December 10, 2007, 05:31:20 AM

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MN Dave

What is the single most perfect piece of music ever written? The one that makes all the others pale, even if only slightly, in comparison?

PerfectWagnerite

#1
Perfect as in it would be sacrilege to change a single note and even the thought of changing a note make you cringe?

I vote for Mozart's Symphony #40, K550.

jjfan

Vivaldi 2nd movement of Winter from The Four Seasons.
Maybe tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or next year, I'll have a different answer.
But for now, this is the one for me.

ChamberNut

Very tough question!   :o

I like PerfectWagnerite's answer for Mozart's Symphony # 40.  Good choice.

For a complete work, my choice would be either Bach's Mass in B minor, or Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

For a single movement, I'll go with Beethoven's Cavatina from String Quartet No. 13

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Todd

A toss up between Op 111 and Op 132.
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greg

Mahler 9



(where's Renfield?  ;D ...)

Great Gable

#7
For me, there are three pieces where every single note is perfect, where every nuance is such that to change one thing, drama and impact would be lost.

Beethoven's Piano Sonata no. 14 ("Moonlight") - the first ovement being the most sublime note-for-note piece of music I have heard.

Beethoven's Ninth symphony - glorious, every second a delight.

And they might be deemed hackneyed and over-popular (whatever that means) but Vivaldi's Concertos Op.8 1-4 "Four Seasons" are perfect in every way. I suspect that one of the reasons that Vivaldi is poorly thought of are these four concerti. They are so perfect that everything else he wrote pales in significance next to them. Well, that and the old "less is more" approach to concertos (again, a matter of opinion).

greg

Quote from: Great Gable on December 10, 2007, 07:14:30 AM

And they might be deemed hackneyed and over-popular (whatever that means) but Vivaldi's Concertos Op.8 1-4 "Four Seasons" are perfect in every way. I suspect that one of the reasons that Vivaldi is poorly thought of are theses four concerti. They are so perfect that everything else he wrote pales in insignificance next to them. Well, that and the old "less is more" approach to concertos (again, a matter of opinion).

i have to say the same thing for Vivaldi..... the Four Seasons concertos are amazing, yet everything else i've heard by him is just watered down mediocre music.

orbital

Beethoven Op131 or 132. If hard pressed I'd go with 131.

Don

I have a surprising response - Goldberg Variations.

PSmith08

It's a three-way tie as far as I am concerned:

Richard Wagner: Parsifal, WWV 111
Gustav Mahler: Symphony no. 2
Ludwig van Beethoven: Piano concerto no. 5, op. 73

Harry

I am spoiled for choice....... :)

Bonehelm

Mahler - symphony no.2
Beethoven - symphony no.9
Chopin - all etudes, waltzes, mazurkas, w/e

Que

Quote from: Don on December 10, 2007, 08:27:38 AM
I have a surprising response - Goldberg Variations.

Seconded.  :)

Q

not edward

Quote from: Don on December 10, 2007, 08:27:38 AM
I have a surprising response - Goldberg Variations.
It's on my shortlist as well. I'll get back to you in 50 years when I've finished the tiebreaking process. :)
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

BachQ

Bach, Goldberg Variations
LvB, 7th Symphony, 4th PC
Mozart, Piano Concerto no. 24
Brahms, 4th Symphony
Mendelssohn, Overture to MSND
Schubert, Wanderer Fantasy; String Quintet

greg

Quote from: D Minor on December 10, 2007, 11:54:34 AM
Bach, Goldberg Variations
LvB, 7th Symphony, 4th PC
Mozart, Piano Concerto no. 24
Brahms, 4th Symphony
Mendelssohn, Overture to MSND
Schubert, Wanderer Fantasy; String Quintet
you're trying to be funny, aren't you?

Don

Quote from: G...R...E...G... on December 10, 2007, 11:57:55 AM
you're trying to be funny, aren't you?

What do you find humorous about D Minor's list? 

greg

Quote from: Don on December 10, 2007, 12:07:26 PM
What do you find humorous about D Minor's list? 
you notice he left out something, right?.......

this is about "The Best", and we all know what D Minor's favorite is, unless he's been deceiving us all this time.