Dmitri's Dacha

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Karl Henning

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 21, 2019, 09:39:43 AM
It is great, isn't it Andy?  Very glad you enjoy it.  Petrenko's 4th and 14th are probably my favourtie recordings out of that set.

Do I believe mine eyne? Ray!!!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Andy D.


Brahmsian

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 21, 2019, 05:05:07 PM
Do I believe mine eyne? Ray!!!

Bonjour Karl and Andy.

I may not post often, but I lurk now and then.

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vandermolen

I know that we've discussed individual symphonies but what's your overall verdict on this set please?
I have sets by Haitink, Barshai, Jansons and Maxim (Supraphon) plus a DGG one featuring different conductors. Do I need this set as well?
::)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Karl Henning

Quote from: vandermolen on September 25, 2019, 11:31:36 AM
I know that we've discussed individual symphonies but what's your overall verdict on this set please?
I have sets by Haitink, Barshai, Jansons and Maxim (Supraphon) plus a DGG one featuring different conductors. Do I need this set as well?
::)


I also have Barshai, Maxim, and much of Haitink and Jansons. Understand that I have not heard all of the Petrenko cycle.

But from my perspective, I should say not.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 21, 2019, 09:39:43 AM
It is great, isn't it Andy?  Very glad you enjoy it.  Petrenko's 4th and 14th are probably my favourtie recordings out of that set.
excellent, Ray!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

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Quote from: vandermolen on September 25, 2019, 11:31:36 AM
I know that we've discussed individual symphonies but what's your overall verdict on this set please?
I have sets by Haitink, Barshai, Jansons and Maxim (Supraphon) plus a DGG one featuring different conductors. Do I need this set as well?
::)


Well, as a person who only wanted to get one set, it's the one I chose to get.

Whether you need it "as well" depends on what your criteria are. Do I think it's good? Yes. That's why it's the one I chose. But I should note that one of the sets you have is Jansons, which from my sampling was often quite similar in style to Petrenko. So if your main criterion is "is it that different from what I've already got" then the answer might be no.

Jansons and Petrenko were my 2 finalists for my own tastes. I ended up picking Petrenko over Jansons though I couldn't tell you several years later exactly why that was.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Madiel on September 25, 2019, 02:32:05 PM
Well, as a person who only wanted to get one set, it's the one I chose to get.

Whether you need it "as well" depends on what your criteria are. Do I think it's good? Yes. That's why it's the one I chose. But I should note that one of the sets you have is Jansons, which from my sampling was often quite similar in style to Petrenko. So if your main criterion is "is it that different from what I've already got" then the answer might be no.

Jansons and Petrenko were my 2 finalists for my own tastes. I ended up picking Petrenko over Jansons though I couldn't tell you several years later exactly why that was.

Sounds like your process was a success.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2019, 02:59:38 PM
Sounds like your process was a success.

Well I've certainly got a lot of satisfaction out of Petrenko. There are only 1 or 2 symphonies where I'm not fully convinced.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Ken B

Quote from: Madiel on September 25, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Well I've certainly got a lot of satisfaction out of Petrenko. There are only 1 or 2 symphonies where I'm not fully convinced.

John (MI) was a big fan of the Petrenko.

JBS

Quote from: vandermolen on September 25, 2019, 11:31:36 AM
I know that we've discussed individual symphonies but what's your overall verdict on this set please?
I have sets by Haitink, Barshai, Jansons and Maxim (Supraphon) plus a DGG one featuring different conductors. Do I need this set as well?
::)


I would say the most obvious lacuna is Kondrashin's cycle. But at current Amazon pricing (one used set, offered at over $1400 US!) you would need to search out individual CDs.

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vandermolen

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
I also have Barshai, Maxim, and much of Haitink and Jansons. Understand that I have not heard all of the Petrenko cycle.

But from my perspective, I should say not.
Thanks Karl!

:)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: Madiel on September 25, 2019, 02:32:05 PM
Well, as a person who only wanted to get one set, it's the one I chose to get.

Whether you need it "as well" depends on what your criteria are. Do I think it's good? Yes. That's why it's the one I chose. But I should note that one of the sets you have is Jansons, which from my sampling was often quite similar in style to Petrenko. So if your main criterion is "is it that different from what I've already got" then the answer might be no.

Jansons and Petrenko were my 2 finalists for my own tastes. I ended up picking Petrenko over Jansons though I couldn't tell you several years later exactly why that was.

Thank you Madiel! That is very helpful advice. My late sister-in-law's brother selected the Petrenko after I lent him multiple copies of Symphony 4 (Including Petrenko). However, it is his local orchestra as he lives in Liverpool, but he seems very happy with it. I was interested in your Jansons comparison.
Thanks again.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: JBS on September 25, 2019, 05:32:21 PM
I would say the most obvious lacuna is Kondrashin's cycle. But at current Amazon pricing (one used set, offered at over $1400 US!) you would need to search out individual CDs.
Thanks Jeffrey. I agree but that set is always absurdly priced on Amazon. Fortunately I have a few of the individual Melodiya releases including Nos 4,8,11 and 15 which are amongst my favourites (I think that 9 is coupled with 15).
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: Ken B on September 25, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
John (MI) was a big fan of the Petrenko.
Good to know. Thanks Ken. I miss John and cilgwyn's input very much.
:(
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Madiel

The biggest gamble of my recent purchases paid off. I got a copy of this album...



...but not in that format. When that version was released in 2006 (itself now rare and expensive), highly enthusiastic reviews said "gosh, this was recorded in 1992, how come it's taken so long to get to disc?

The answer was that it had been released in 1994 on the Vanguard Classics label, in a "Rembrandt" series of Dutch recordings. And also on a label called Fidelio, I'm not entirely sure which came first though the Vanguard has a fractionally better version of the cover art.



It took a lot of work to figure this out based on an eBay listing with a truly terrible description and no picture, but the second-hand CD duly turned up in the letterbox this morning. Case cracked (seriously, I'm beginning to wonder whether it's my local postman as so many cases have been damaged) but the CD itself looks to be in immaculate condition.

And multiple reviews said this was one of the best renditions of these sonatas available. So, with this purchase I'm happy!
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

aukhawk

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Quote from: JBS on September 25, 2019, 05:32:21 PM
I would say the most obvious lacuna is Kondrashin's cycle. But at current Amazon pricing (one used set, offered at over $1400 US!) you would need to search out individual CDs.

Or you can stream it. (It's on Spotify for example.)  And the set includes (among other extras) Kondrashin's recording of Stepan Razin, which is just essential.

 

Biffo

Quote from: aukhawk on September 26, 2019, 02:48:39 AM
Or you can stream it. (It's on Spotify for example.)  And the set includes (among other extras) Kondrashin's recording of Stepan Razin, which is just essential.

 

Thanks for the info - I have saved it to my Spotify library.

relm1

Quote from: vandermolen on September 25, 2019, 11:31:36 AM
I know that we've discussed individual symphonies but what's your overall verdict on this set please?
I have sets by Haitink, Barshai, Jansons and Maxim (Supraphon) plus a DGG one featuring different conductors. Do I need this set as well?
::)


I thought the Petrenko No. 5 was very good.  But some others weren't so strong and I forgot which ones those were!  I think No. 11 wasn't so good so as a cycle in a whole I didn't think it was a go do compared to the greatest ones like Haitink or Barshai but there were a few that were quite good.