And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[JBS]

MSNBC Host Offers Worst Election Analysis Of All Time

https://www.youtube.com/v/VTmQiFxuAEg

I don't like Mika (she and her now-husband have never really acknowledged their role in making Trump a respectable candidate), especially when she starts to sermonize, but most of what she says is an accurate assessment of American politics. It the Young Turks say otherwise, then that's another demonstration of why you should not trust the Young Turks.

[SimonNZ]

I am not saying TYT always has every detail 100 % correct. They make mistakes just like anyone. Often they correct those mistakes. Maybe you could mention an major inaccuracy they have made and haven't corrected? The members of TYT don't always agree with each other. Cenk and Ana have disagreements sometimes. Cenk thinks Warren is better candidate than I think (I agree more with Kyle Kulinski). Everybody has bias. The difference is there lefty Youtubers tell you their bias so you know it, but they try to give you the facts as they are. The corporate media has their bias (protecting the 1 %), but they don't admit it. They say they are neutral (lie!) and they smear the facts.

Is there any investigative reporting presented via YouTube? Isn't 100% of whats on there just amateur opinion on other peoples legwork?

A considerable amount of the information you (and your beloved Kyle) take completely for granted and absorb through whatever circuitous route comes from some very talented people in what you sweepingly call "the corporate media".

[JBS]

Is there any investigative reporting presented via YouTube? Isn't 100% of whats on there just amateur opinion on other peoples legwork?

A considerable amount of the information you (and your beloved Kyle) take completely for granted and absorb through whatever circuitous route comes from some very talented people in what you sweepingly call "the corporate media".

Actually a lot of it comes through Mother Jones and other progressive outlets, not the corporate media.  But I have yet to find anything they say that isn't espoused by other progressives. Plenty of whom can be found on MSNBC and CNN in the role of pundits.

[Karl Henning]

I don't like Mika (she and her now-husband have never really acknowledged their role in making Trump a respectable candidate), especially when she starts to sermonize, but most of what she says is an accurate assessment of American politics. It the Young Turks say otherwise, then that's another demonstration of why you should not trust the Young Turks.

Somebody doesn't get that throwing in a MSNBC vid doesn't map onto "See, my bubble is the One True Bubble!"

[SimonNZ]

Actually a lot of it comes through Mother Jones and other progressive outlets, not the corporate media.  But I have yet to find anything they say that isn't espoused by other progressives. Plenty of whom can be found on MSNBC and CNN in the role of pundits.

I said that because 71 dismisses all the investigative reporting from, say, the Washington Post and the New York Times as mere "corporate media".

[JBS]

I said that because 71 dismisses all the investigative reporting from, say, the Washington Post and the New York Times as mere "corporate media".

Yes.
But since he avoids the corporate media he seems to not realize how well represented progressives are in the corporate media, and how often the Young Turks simply paraphrase what can be heard regularly on the corporate media. He seems to think the corporate media suppress progressive views. They don't. The might suppress conservative views, but even that is debateable.

[71 dB]

I've given you examples before of how they don't present the facts. For instance, they avoid Big Pharma's abuse of the regulatory and patent processes. Which is the real source of Big Pharma's profits. So the Young Turks are actually propagandizing for Big Pharma! So at leasr sometimes they are lying, just like Fox and CNN.

Patents are a thing everywhere, but the US has highest prices. Why? Canadian drugs are as good as American drugs, but cheaper. Why? It's because US government can't negotiate to lower prices. Canada government can. Why? Because in Canada Medical industry hasn't bought the government. In the US it has. I don't know if your claims about TYT are even true. They say drugs are too expensive in the US and they are right. Never have I seen them justifying Big Pharma's profits, but then again, I haven't seen all their videos and I don't know what you have seen.

Again, you think medical bankruptcies are tied to huge medical bills. They are not. They are tied to people not being able to work while sick. The amount of their medical bills has nothing to do with that. They can be fully insured and still go bankrupt. If the Young Turks say otherwise they are lying. I am sure in Finland people get sick, can't work, can't pay bills because of that.

In Finland workers have better protection. Paid sick leave for example.
In the US, 10 states seems to have some sort of paid sick leave requirements.
How are you paying 50.000 dollar medical bill if you live paycheck to paycheck? Go Fund Me?

I italicized one thing you said in your post because it's completely wrong. The Young Turks lie just as much as any other part of the American media. Until you accept that reality, your opinions on American politics will be garbage because they are based on garbage.

I don't understand you accusations. You need to point out something they have said and prove it a lie. So, whay is it they have said about Big Pharma that is a lie?

[71 dB]

I don't like Mika (she and her now-husband have never really acknowledged their role in making Trump a respectable candidate), especially when she starts to sermonize, but most of what she says is an accurate assessment of American politics. It the Young Turks say otherwise, then that's another demonstration of why you should not trust the Young Turks.

That's a Secular Talk (Kyle Kulinski) video, not a TYT video.
I trust Kyle Kulinski and TYT 1000 times more than corporate media and you are a brainwashed useful idiot for the rich.

[71 dB]

Is there any investigative reporting presented via YouTube? Isn't 100% of whats on there just amateur opinion on other peoples legwork?

A considerable amount of the information you (and your beloved Kyle) take completely for granted and absorb through whatever circuitous route comes from some very talented people in what you sweepingly call "the corporate media".

Yes, TYT has investigations. Recently congress  aknowledged some of it. To call them "amateur opinion" is pretty harsh considering how hard they work. Do you think war is always the way? That's corporate media. More war? Is tha it? TYT says, come home. Stop killing. Use the money to fix water in Flint, Michigan.

You live in a country with single payer right? So you have access to healtcare right? So you don't go bankrut? TYT fight for Americans to have the same you don't want that what?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA

[71 dB]

I said that because 71 dismisses all the investigative reporting from, say, the Washington Post and the New York Times as mere "corporate media".

Sure those outlets have great articles, but somehow they NEVER write positively about Bernie.

[Madiel]

71dB, you use the term "corporate" for points of view don't like in much the same way that Trump refers to "fake news".

It's not helpful.

[71 dB]

Yes.
But since he avoids the corporate media he seems to not realize how well represented progressives are in the corporate media, and how often the Young Turks simply paraphrase what can be heard regularly on the corporate media. He seems to think the corporate media suppress progressive views. They don't. The might suppress conservative views, but even that is debateable.

Even on MSNBC it's hard to find positive coverage about progressives.

[JBS]

Patents are a thing everywhere, but the US has highest prices. Why? Canadian drugs are as good as American drugs, but cheaper. Why? It's because US government can't negotiate to lower prices. Canada government can. Why? Because in Canada Medical industry hasn't bought the government. In the US it has. I don't know if your claims about TYT are even true. They say drugs are too expensive in the US and they are right. Never have I seen them justifying Big Pharma's profits, but then again, I haven't seen all their videos and I don't know what you have seen.

In Finland workers have better protection. Paid sick leave for example.
In the US, 10 states seems to have some sort of paid sick leave requirements.
How are you paying 50.000 dollar medical bill if you live paycheck to paycheck? Go Fund Me?

I don't understand you accusations. You need to point out something they have said and prove it a lie. So, whay is it they have said about Big Pharma that is a lie?

Big Pharma gets its profits by manipulating the FDA approval and patent processes. They prevent competition. Single payer doesn't solve that.  Canada has lower prices because it allows generics that are illegal in the US. You can buy a generic drug in Canada that is illegal in the US thanks to the FDA. If your videos don't explain that, they are lying.

As for the 50,000 dollar medical bills: hospitals etc normally allow extended payments and charitable writeoffs. That's why what you call medical bankruptcies are actually very rare.

Paid sick leave is not part of health insurance. That was my point. The real problem can't be solved by health insurance because it doesn't actually involve health care.

[71 dB]

71dB, you use the term "corporate" for points of view don't like in much the same way that Trump refers to "fake news".

It's not helpful.

Corporate means status quo, maintaining the rigged system. Blocking progress. Benefitting the rich and corporations. It's propping up Pete Buttigieg writing "Strong fourth in polls" etc

[JBS]

Sure those outlets have great articles, but somehow they NEVER write positively about Bernie.

Because unless you're a true leftist there isn't much to say that's positive about him.

Even on MSNBC it's hard to find positive coverage about progressives.

You're in Finland, so I can understand you not watching MSNBC...but MSNBC is full of progressives. Mika and Joe Scarborough are their token centrist.  If you watched it you would understand that.

[JBS]

Corporate means status quo, maintaining the rigged system. Blocking progress. Benefitting the rich and corporations. It's propping up Pete Buttigieg writing "Strong fourth in polls" etc

Funny how everything you don't like you wave off as corporate disinformation. Perhaps you are the one who is brainwashed?

[71 dB]

Big Pharma gets its profits by manipulating the FDA approval and patent processes. They prevent competition. Single payer doesn't solve that.  Canada has lower prices because it allows generics that are illegal in the US. You can buy a generic drug in Canada that is illegal in the US thanks to the FDA. If your videos don't explain that, they are lying.

As for the 50,000 dollar medical bills: hospitals etc normally allow extended payments and charitable writeoffs. That's why what you call medical bankruptcies are actually very rare.

Paid sick leave is not part of health insurance. That was my point. The real problem can't be solved by health insurance because it doesn't actually involve health care.

Single payer means government can negotiate prices down. Canada drugs can be allowed in the US (competition => prices down). Things can be changed if there is political will. Is this a lie? Why do you protect the interest of rich on the expense of regular people? Insurance companies pay you?

https://www.thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729

If the healtcare system is so good, why do majority of Americans want M4A?

[71 dB]

Funny how everything you don't like you wave off as corporate disinformation. Perhaps you are the one who is brainwashed?

What can I say. I need sleep 5 am

[JBS]

Single payer means government can negotiate prices down. Canada drugs can be allowed in the US (competition => prices down). Things can be changed if there is political will. Is this a lie? Why do you protect the interest of rich on the expense of regular people? Insurance companies pay you?

https://www.thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729

If the healtcare system is so good, why do majority of Americans want M4A?

If you read what I wrote, you would understand that Canadian drugs are not allowed in the US, and the problem is not because of we don't have single payer but because we allow single-producer.

Also, if you read the Balance article , you would have realized it concludes there are no reliable statistics!

[71 dB]

I have the right to be lefty.
The US have a change for change
Change is needed - the oligarchy is out of hand and real democracy is gone.
Trump is president because corporate dems suck
I can't understand how it is possible everyone here are idiots brainwashed by corporate media
Lefty Youtubers are popular. They rival corporate media. So many views.
Kyle Kulinski was in 2016 like the fifth largest political Youtube channel!
In Politicon massive meet and greet! Political Superstar. Destroyed Charlie Kirk
There are millions of people who agree with me. Just not on this board of idiots.
Maybe you all make too much money to know the struggle of regular people.
Maybe someone here agrees with me and supports Bernie (where are you?)

What the fuck is this? What the fuck?