And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[Karl Henning]

In future try giving them the time you'd previously wasted on TYT.

He checks the Beeb, but doesn't read ....

[Karl Henning]

Blah-blah "corporates" "Kyle is the greatest blah-blah

Someone opposing you does not, among adults, absolutely rule out respect.

And sure, we all suspected that Kyle is a big fish in a small stagnant pond.

[71 dB]

He checks the Beeb, but doesn't read ....

We live in information/disinformation cornucopia. One has to filter a lot, because we can't read 1000 hours a day. When I recognize a corporate hit piece I filter it. The ability to filter and apply source criticism is an important part of litaracy these days.

[Karl Henning]

We live in information/disinformation cornucopia. One has to filter a lot, because we can't read 1000 hours a day. As soon as I find that an article doesn't tell me what I already want to hear, I disregard it. The ability to filter and apply source criticism is an important part of litaracy these days.

FTFY. Now, back to your bubble.

[71 dB]

FTFY. Now, back to your bubble.

You just have this obsession to prove how I am the worth person in history who understands and knows nothing. Yes, you can twist pretty much everything I say against me. How much do you read/listen to information that is against your own beliefs? If I am guilty of living in my bubble so are you. I am willing to admit that. Are you? I have my reasons to for my bubble. I am a humanist. I don't like suffering. I put people before money and profit. That's why I am a lefty. Deal with it!

[71 dB]

Jordan Chariton of Status Coup:

IRONY: Same Boomers Who Benefited From Bernie-Like Policies Have Been Brainwashed to Support Biden

https://www.youtube.com/v/BTQGCrkNh34

[drogulus]

     The overlap between what Biden will do and what Sanders will do is considerable. I start there. The non-overlap is portrayed as ideological, not least by Bernie, who is fond of the rhetoric of revolution for policy measures that have been part of the social democratic playbook for many decades as enacted and at the level of proposals for a century or more depending. I refuse to imbibe "socialist theater" as though it was a thing, notwithstanding what AOC calls herself.

     I get the Jiu Jitsu element. The right is going to attack the left as socialist no matter what, so an inoculation strategy might work for younger people who think the boomer labels have long passed their sell-by date.

     It's not all hokum. There's a core of sense to left/right distinctions which is useful, because politics is an intrinsically beliefy business and with human behavior beliefs are important as forces in their own right.

[SimonNZ]

We live in information/disinformation cornucopia. One has to filter a lot, because we can't read 1000 hours a day. When I recognize a corporate hit piece I filter it. The ability to filter and apply source criticism is an important part of litaracy these days.

Did you find that BBC World made "corporate hit pieces"?

I'm reminded of an author who wrote an eight page cover story on Sanders for Time magazine. The article included a range of criticisms but the response they got back from the Sanders team was that they liked it and thought the author genuinely understood the subject. The response from Sanders supporters however was an immediate attack swarm of abuse and charges of bias and smear. I'll have to find it again.

edit:

https://time.com/longform/bernie-sanders-2020/

to reiterate: the Sanders team liked it

is it a "corporate hit piece" because its critical of him in places? (assuming you'll read something as long as eight pages...)

[Ratliff]

We live in information/disinformation cornucopia. One has to filter a lot, because we can't read 1000 hours a day. When I recognize a corporate hit piece I filter it. The ability to filter and apply source criticism is an important part of litaracy these days.

Have you even considered the possibility that you are filtering the actual information. There is such a thing as "journalism school" and journalists have professional standards and a code of conduct. Reputable media outlets have opinion pieces, but they also have reporting which is fact based and verified. From your posting here I get the impression you read only opinion pieces.

[Herman]

From your posting here I get the impression you read only opinion pieces.

A lot of people do this nowadays.

Op pieces are often juicier and more relatable.

[SimonNZ]

From your posting here I get the impression you read only opinion pieces.

"watch"

[Karl Henning]

You just have this obsession to prove how I am the worth person in history who understands and knows nothing.

I have no obsession with you, and as I do not believe you are a bad person, I have no agenda to prove you the "worst." You don't do yourself any favors by swallowing Kyle's biased bilge, just because you like it.

How much do you read/listen to information that is against your own beliefs?

I read some of both "The Opposition" and of the much-more-activist-Left daily

If I am guilty of living in my bubble so are you.

It is not merely that you are uninformed and mistaken, but that you sound like a 4-year-old: "YOU ARE, TOO!"

And a humanist should be ashamed to plead that as am excuse for habitual intellectual laziness.

[Karl Henning]

More spamming your "brainwashed" bullshit which niffs of projection, O Kyle-besotted one.

[Karl Henning]

(assuming you'll read something as long as eight pages...)

I'd never assume that;  I hesitate to assume that he can read . . . .

[71 dB]

I don't answer to your accusations. I don't have to. I am entitled to my opinions. Coronavirus...

Trump does not. Handle. imcompetence. Bernie is competent!!!
Good luck Americans. 1 MILLION Americana can die because of corona. That's your beloved PRIVATE healthcare.
Maybe now single payer sounds good?

I am wrong? I hope I am...

Did you find that BBC World made "corporate hit pieces"?

No. It's British. "corporate hit pieces" are more of an American thing.

[ritter]

We now fall to the level of Schadenfreude...good grief!

[71 dB]

I have tried to be nice and respectful here recently.
People have keep attacking me in ways that make me feel not welcome here.
All I want is better life for Americans and this is what I get for it.
Ok, deal with your problems then. Elect Biden or Trump and deal with the consequencies.
I listen to Elgar. UK fucked up with Brexit, but at least it's not a total oligarchy and
has one of the best healthcare systems in the World.

I am truly shocked about what kind of people classical music fans are. I am beginning to understand I AM NOT A "NORMY" CLASSICAL MUSIC FAN!! I am not such elitist "corporate" hack. I am someone who just happens to enjoy a lot of classical music, but otherwise I am a lefty, a humanist and what I have experienced on this forum has really shaken my beliefs about the classical music community.

I don't know where I belong to. Who am I and what is my place? I am so confused. Elgar's music helps. That's a paradise where want to be, not on this planet of 2020 when everything is so wrong...

[SimonNZ]

No. It's British. "corporate hit pieces" are more of an American thing.

That's simply not true.  And you'd know that if you were more aware of the variety in the media landscape outside of your few YT favorites, and their assurance that it is they alone who can give you the straight dope.

Did you at least read that Time piece on Sanders? I'm very interested to know if you agree with the Sanders people who liked it or the Bernie Bros who hated it.

[SimonNZ]

I have tried to be nice and respectful here recently.
People have keep attacking me in ways that make me feel not welcome here.
All I want is better life for Americans and this is what I get for it.
Ok, deal with your problems then. Elect Biden or Trump and deal with the consequencies.
I listen to Elgar. UK fucked up with Brexit, but at least it's not a total oligarchy and
has one of the best healthcare systems in the World.

I am truly shocked about what kind of people classical music fans are. I am beginning to understand I AM NOT A "NORMY" CLASSICAL MUSIC FAN!! I am not such elitist "corporate" hack. I am someone who just happens to enjoy a lot of classical music, but otherwise I am a lefty, a humanist and what I have experienced on this forum has really shaken my beliefs about the classical music community.

I don't know where I belong to. Who am I and what is my place? I am so confused. Elgar's music helps. That's a paradise where want to be, not on this planet of 2020 when everything is so wrong...

[71 dB]

Did you at least read that Time piece on Sanders? I'm very interested to know if you agree with the Sanders people who liked it or the Bernie Bros who hated it.

I don't recollect reading any Time piece on Sanders.

It's possible the "better" stuff is behind paywalls and I never see it, but I can't spend money on this. I have to pay rent and food to stay alive!