And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[ritter]

jiggered if I know what you said to provoke that bile.

Nothing at all, but anything one says will provoke the ire of this fellow who seems to be profoundly disturbed, and to be just looking for attention. His insulting ramblings are a disgrace for this forum we all cherish.

[Karl Henning]

Biden has informed Sanders that he is beginning the VP vetting process.

[Karl Henning]

Nothing at all, but anything one says will provoke the ire of this fellow who seems to be profoundly disturbed, and to be just looking for attention. His insulting ramblings are a disgrace for this forum we all cherish.

And we know him too well, to hope that he repents of using you so ill.

[Mirror Image]

Does he have a party? Poju seems absurdly out of joint over the fact that Democratic voters prefer an actual Democrat as a nominee.

I'm not sure, but the only party I'm going to have is when 71 dB stops talking about American politics, which, evidently, will never happen.

[71 dB]

You're talking as if your own country hasn't been affected by the coronavirus. I'm afraid you're in the same boat we're all in at the moment. This virus doesn't discriminate --- it's everywhere. Yeah, Bernie Sanders is such a legend that he can't even be elected president or even considered by his own party. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Yes, my own country Finland struggles with corona virus (1882 infection/25 deaths as of now + I haven't visited my dad in 3 weeks thanks to social distancing), but everyone is covered so if I get infected and needed hospitalization I won't get a $30.000 bill for it. The irony in the US is a lot of people have their healthcare tied to their jobs and now millions of people are losing their jobs because of corona virus - just when they need it more than ever! Even Trump proposes "medicare for covid-19" to deal with the dire situation.

Bernie Sanders has to fight against the whole establishment including the corporate media smearing him non-stop because is a danger to their rigged system. The corporate media keeps silent about the Tara Reade sexual harrassment allegations against Biden. Do you think they would keep silent if it was Bernie? Hell no! They would talk about it 24/7. Taking that into account Bernie has done damn well and was even the front-runner briefly before the establisment got the duck's in row behind Biden. Too bad it doesn't seem to be enough and Trump will get his 2nd term or the president is a demented "nothing will change" corporate guy. That is if DNC doesn't change Biden to A. Cuomo in which case it's just a "nothing will change" corporate guy in the White House...

[Karl Henning]

Yes, my own country Finland struggles with corona virus (1882 infection/25 deaths as of now + I haven't visited my dad in 3 weeks thanks to social distancing), but everyone is covered so if I get infected and needed hospitalization I won't get a $30.000 bill for it. The irony in the US is a lot of people have their healthcare tied to their jobs and now millions of people are losing their jobs because of corona virus - just when they need it more than ever! Even Trump proposes "medicare for covid-19" to deal with the situation.

Bernie Sanders has to fight against the whole establishment including the corporate media smearing him non-stop because is a danger to their rigged system. The corporate media keeps silent about the Tara Reade sexual harrassment allegations against Biden. Do you think they would keep silent if it was Bernie? Hell no! They would talk about it 24/7. Taking that into account Bernie has done damn well and was even the front-runner briefly before the establisment got the duck's in row behind Biden. Too bad it doesn't seem to be enough and Trump will get his 2nd term or the president is a demented "nothing will change" corporate guy. That is if DNC doesn't change Biden to A. Cuomo in which case it's just a "nothing will change" corporate guy in the White House...

No one marks you, you fool.

[71 dB]

Does he have a party? Poju seems absurdly out of joint over the fact that Democratic voters prefer an actual Democrat as a nominee.

What is actual democrat? Letter D next to the name? FDR politics? About 85 % of Democrat voters suppert medicare for all. Besed on that, Bernie is by far the most Democratic candidate while Biden who says he would veto medicare for all is far from a democrat. Biden is a Republican based on his politics.

[JBS]

What is actual democrat? Letter D next to the name? FDR politics? About 85 % of Democrat voters suppert medicare for all. Besed on that, Bernie is by far the most Democratic candidate while Biden who says he would veto medicare for all is far from a democrat. Biden is a Republican based on his politics.

Ahh, if you seriously believe that last statement, you live in a fantasy world.

[Mirror Image]

Yes, my own country Finland struggles with corona virus (1882 infection/25 deaths as of now + I haven't visited my dad in 3 weeks thanks to social distancing), but everyone is covered so if I get infected and needed hospitalization I won't get a $30.000 bill for it. The irony in the US is a lot of people have their healthcare tied to their jobs and now millions of people are losing their jobs because of corona virus - just when they need it more than ever! Even Trump proposes "medicare for covid-19" to deal with the dire situation.

Bernie Sanders has to fight against the whole establishment including the corporate media smearing him non-stop because is a danger to their rigged system. The corporate media keeps silent about the Tara Reade sexual harrassment allegations against Biden. Do you think they would keep silent if it was Bernie? Hell no! They would talk about it 24/7. Taking that into account Bernie has done damn well and was even the front-runner briefly before the establisment got the duck's in row behind Biden. Too bad it doesn't seem to be enough and Trump will get his 2nd term or the president is a demented "nothing will change" corporate guy. That is if DNC doesn't change Biden to A. Cuomo in which case it's just a "nothing will change" corporate guy in the White House...

I think you need to stick to talking about your own country's politics, because you clearly are out of your element with American politics and, also, you don't know how health insurance is set up in the States, so stop pretending like you do. Stop clicking on YouTube videos about American politics and go back to listening to Tangerine Dream. All will be well with the world. Bernie Sanders is a washed up politician and won't be elected dog catcher. Accept that reality and move on.

[71 dB]

I think you need to stick to talking about your own country's politics, because you clearly are out of your element with American politics and, also, you don't know how health insurance is set up in the States, so stop pretending like you do. Stop clicking on YouTube videos about American politics and go back to listening to Tangerine Dream. All will be well with the world. Bernie Sanders is a washed up politician and won't be elected dog catcher. Accept that reality and move on.

Why do people tell me what to do? It's my own business. I don't tell you what to watch or listen to. That's your business. I don't know all the small details of how health insurance is set up in the States, but I think I know the main principles and the main problem with it. I have watched/heard americans telling about their own experiences, for example David Pakman has told his stories and Kyle Kulinski has told how his dad died because of the horrible healthcare system. Are you saying Kulinski's dad didn't avoid going to doctor (in time) fearing the costs? If the healthcare is so good in the US why did it happen to Kulinski's dad and so many others? American's fear the costs and avoid going to the doctor so they go went it's too late and nothing can be done. They die.

Maybe you could move on yourself and let me write here what I want? Accept the reality that people like me exist.

[Karl Henning]

Why do people tell me what to do? It's my own business. I don't tell you what to watch or listen to. That's your business. I don't know all the small details of how health insurance is set up in the States, but I think I know the main principles and the main problem with it. I have watched/heard americans telling about their own experiences, for example David Pakman has told his stories and Kyle Kulinski has told how his dad died because of the horrible healthcare system. Are you saying Kulinski's dad didn't avoid going to doctor (in time) fearing the costs? If the healthcare is so good in the US why did it happen to Kulinski's dad and so many others? American's fear the costs and avoid going to the doctor so they go went it's too late and nothing can be done. They die.

Maybe you could move on yourself and let me write here what I want? Accept the reality that people like me exist.

People like you who spout rubbish while proclaiming their unique "genius"?

Yeah, we know you exist. I'm still going to call rubbish rubbish.

[71 dB]

People like you who spout rubbish while proclaiming their unique "genius"?

Yeah, we know you exist. I'm still going to call rubbish rubbish.

How is what I say rubbish?? We may disagree about things, but it doesn't make my opinions rubbish. Also, I have never called myself a genius. I think I understand US politics well, because I have followed it closely, but it doesn't make me a genius, of course!

[SimonNZ]

[Mirror Image]

Why do people tell me what to do? It's my own business. I don't tell you what to watch or listen to. That's your business. I don't know all the small details of how health insurance is set up in the States, but I think I know the main principles and the main problem with it. I have watched/heard americans telling about their own experiences, for example David Pakman has told his stories and Kyle Kulinski has told how his dad died because of the horrible healthcare system. Are you saying Kulinski's dad didn't avoid going to doctor (in time) fearing the costs? If the healthcare is so good in the US why did it happen to Kulinski's dad and so many others? American's fear the costs and avoid going to the doctor so they go went it's too late and nothing can be done. They die.

Maybe you could move on yourself and let me write here what I want? Accept the reality that people like me exist.

There's quite a divide in someone who is obsessed by American politics vs. someone who has an interest in them. You, 71 dB, are the former. The problem is you've made your 'opinions' (if you want to call them that) known for many months now and you simply repeat yourself over and over again. If your business is to come here and litter threads with your senseless opinions, then it's my business to call you out on the uselessness of your posts. We get it. You love Bernie Sanders and think he's some kind of god --- trust me, we all understand this and, I think I can speak for many here when I say we're all tired of hearing about it. Also, don't sit there and act like universal healthcare is without fault, because it's not. Again, go listen to some Tangerine Dream and chill out. You may need to get your doctor to up your medication, because, trust me, the dosage your taking isn't enough.

[71 dB]

I have known this curve for many many years! I'm not talking about aspects that take doctorate in US politics. I talk about 101 stuff, which to my surprise is not clear for many here because they are so heavily influenced by corporate media and seem to be totally clueless what the role of it is. For an outsider like me it was VERY EASY to see what the corporate media is like, because we don't have such insane smears in Finnish media! Even a child understands why things like medicare for all are important unless you are totally influenced by corporate media.

[71 dB]

There's quite a divide in someone who is obsessed by American politics vs. someone who has an interest in them. You, 71 dB, are the former. The problem is you've made your 'opinions' (if you want to call them that) known for many months now and you simply repeat yourself over and over again. If your business is to come here and litter threads with your senseless opinions, then it's my business to call you out on the uselessness of your posts. We get it. You love Bernie Sanders and think he's some kind of god --- trust me, we all understand this and, I think I can speak for many here when I say we're all tired of hearing about it. Also, don't sit there and act like universal healthcare is without fault, because it's not. Again, go listen to some Tangerine Dream and chill out. You may need to get your doctor to up your medication, because, trust me, the dosage your taking isn't enough.

To you Biden is god. Why that is is beyond me unless you are a member of the 1 % elite. Biden serves them, not the 99 % Bernie is for them.

[SimonNZ]

I have known this curve for many many years! I'm not talking about aspects that take doctorate in US politics. I talk about 101 stuff, which to my surprise is not clear for many here because they are so heavily influenced by corporate media and seem to be totally clueless what the role of it is. For an outsider like me it was VERY EASY to see what the corporate media is like, because we don't have such insane smears in Finnish media! Even a child understands why things like medicare for all are important unless you are totally influenced by corporate media.

[JBS]

I have known this curve for many many years! I'm not talking about aspects that take doctorate in US politics. I talk about 101 stuff, which to my surprise is not clear for many here because they are so heavily influenced by corporate media and seem to be totally clueless what the role of it is. For an outsider like me it was VERY EASY to see what the corporate media is like, because we don't have such insane smears in Finnish media! Even a child understands why things like medicare for all are important unless you are totally influenced by corporate media.

We understand MfA. But most of us don't have the bias for leftist ideas you have, so we can see MFA's faults. We can also see that Bernie's style of progressivism is simply another form of authoritarian elitism. Kulinski's geeks and nerds are just as bad as Trump's oligarchs.  If you were really against the 1% you would reject progressivism.  All it does is replace the current 1% with a different 1%. And some of the same people are members of both 1%s.

I am not going to vote for a man like Sanders who thinks he has the right to tell me whom I can sell my house to and for how much.

[Karl Henning]

To you Biden is god.

One of the most idiotic things you've said to date.

[71 dB]

So we can see MFA's faults.

How about seeing the faults of for profit healthcare?