Videos about the sopranos' octaves

wagnernn · January 13, 2008, 05:52:33 AM

I want to make a video about the octaves of sopranos for my personal presentation about opera in my class.
I've found a video in youtube about this, and I decide to make a video myself, by changing the example for each note. For C3, I choose Nilsson 's "In questa Reggia" and Tebaldi's "O partria mia" .For E3, I choose Maria Callas 's Made scene.,etc, ....So,please help me complete the list of other notes.

wagnernn · January 25, 2008, 05:10:35 PM

Help me, please, Next week I will have to do representation!

Lilas Pastia · January 25, 2008, 08:20:06 PM

What are the 'other notes' ? Those between C and E flat ?? Where does your octave start and finish?

wagnernn · January 27, 2008, 05:20:44 AM

Oh, thank you Lilas Pastia
It begins with c3 anh finishes with c4

Lilas Pastia · January 27, 2008, 06:06:16 AM

There's a youtube video of the same Lucia Mad scene ending on a C4 with Mado Robin (check you tube). She was known to cap the coda with a Bflat in alt (I guess that makes it Bflat 4 ?), but apparently this is a C4. Since I don't have perfect tuning, check before taking my word for it. Robin can also be heard in various arias where A4 and Bflat4 are tossed off like so much confetti.

For F3 there's the second Queen of the Night aria (very well represented on youtube). G3 can be heard on the Mozart scene Popoli di Tessaglia, where Edda Moser makes it unharmed (and in tune) right up to that extremely difficult note.

Tsaraslondon · January 27, 2008, 06:40:10 AM

Quote from: Lilas Pastia on January 27, 2008, 06:06:16 AM
There's a youtube video of the same Lucia Mad scene ending on a C4 with Mado Robin (check you tube). She was known to cap the coda with a Bflat in alt (I guess that makes it Bflat 4 ?), but apparently this is a C4. Since I don't have perfect tuning, check before taking my word for it. Robin can also be heard in various arias where A4 and Bflat4 are tossed off like so much confetti.

Yes, but she does rather sound like a whistling kettle. It's an incredible feat, but I'm not sure I'd call it a musical one.

zamyrabyrd · January 27, 2008, 10:31:41 AM

Mozart praised a soprano of his time who had a similar range as Mado Robin's. He himself didn't write above F4 as in the Queen of the Night (did he write a G4 once???). Because of the steady raising of pitches, his F4 would have been our Eb4, making the aria accessible not only to the highest coloraturas.

I just listened to Callas' Amina, wow, delicate as lace. Pretre was a very inspiring conductor as well.

ZB

Morigan · January 27, 2008, 10:36:58 AM

He wrote two G3s in the concert aria "Popoli di Tessaglia", but that's not really standard repertoire.

By the way, I think there is some confusion here.. ? In the American note-octave notation system, The soprano C is C6 (So the Queen of the Night's F is F6). I read that the Soprano C is C3 in European notation, so I don't think "G4" is possible.

Sarastro · January 27, 2008, 01:35:28 PM

Quote from: Tsaraslondon on January 27, 2008, 06:40:10 AM
Yes, but she does rather sound like a whistling kettle. It's an incredible feat, but I'm not sure I'd call it a musical one.

Exactly! I would rather call it "vocal acrobatics" than "singing".

As for A flat, I heard one clip of Dessay's Olympia reaching it, but the recording with Alagna contains only G. But after, it's known, she had vocal problems...Music is not sports, no records needed.

Take Popp's 1'st Queen of the Night, with precise crowning high F.

Sarastro · January 27, 2008, 01:46:57 PM

Quote from: Morigan on January 27, 2008, 10:36:58 AM
By the way, I think there is some confusion here.. ? In the American note-octave notation system, The soprano C is C6 (So the Queen of the Night's F is F6). I read that the Soprano C is C3 in European notation, so I don't think "G4" is possible.

European notations differ. In Italy, F is actually fa, G - sol, C - ut. The same in Russia, but for C, which is called "do".

wagnernn · January 27, 2008, 04:05:38 PM

Thank, Queen of the night with Popp has a perfect F3.Before,I had the ones with Sumi Jo,Sutherland, SillstoI will choose it.
About D3,which one do you prefer to,the one in Esclarmonde with Sutherland or the one in Son Vergin with Sills?

Morigan · January 27, 2008, 07:00:59 PM

Quote from: Sarastro on January 27, 2008, 01:46:57 PM
European notations differ. In Italy, F is actually fa, G - sol, C - ut. The same in Russia, but for C, which is called "do".

Oh I know that... the Romange laguages use "do re mi fa sol la si do" and the germanic people use letters, but I was talking about the number thing. I.e. C4 = middle C in America

zamyrabyrd · January 28, 2008, 10:20:03 PM

Hi Figaro,

I was just doing an internet search on tuning since this issue was also confusing for me. It seems that C4 as middle C (do) is the most popular usage. I am going to change to that from now on. The other number system comes from using capital C and small c and then going up from there.

Thanks for raising this question.

ZB