Walter Gieseking

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George

#60
October 13, 2014, 03:28:12 AM
Quote from: Todd on January 13, 2011, 07:16:42 AM
Gieseking is one of my favorites, and I enjoy a lot by him.  His Debussy, both from the 30s and his last set on EMI – his recording of the Fantasie is still my favorite.  (I'm hoping the 1951 Preludes get reissued some day.)  His Grieg and Mendelssohn set on EMI is superb.  His Emperor paired with Galliera is quite fine.  Moving to the pirate labels or reissue specialists, there's his Scriabin, Schumann, Ravel (not his EMI recordings), even some Schubert.  Hell, I even like his Mozart. 

Do you say that because it is unpopular to like his Mozart? I have been listening through his 8CD set on EMI for the second time and really enjoying it. I like that he recorded a lot of the shorter works that most pianists omit.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Todd

#61
October 13, 2014, 06:23:12 AM
Quote from: George on October 13, 2014, 03:28:12 AMDo you say that because it is unpopular to like his Mozart?


Yes.  There are some pianophiles out there who dismiss it for being Dresden Doll style - too pretty and precious - but I enjoy it.
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Bogey

#62
January 19, 2015, 05:35:31 AM Last Edit: January 19, 2015, 05:40:08 AM by Bogey
Quote from: Todd on January 13, 2011, 07:16:42 AM
Gieseking is one of my favorites, and I enjoy a lot by him.  His Debussy, both from the 30s and his last set on EMI – his recording of the Fantasie is still my favorite.  (I'm hoping the 1951 Preludes get reissued some day.) 

What are the dates on this set?  Are they the same as the EMI?  Do they have the Preludes you were looking for, Todd?

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Bogey

#63
January 19, 2015, 05:45:45 AM
And while I'm here



Looks like some Debussy from the late 40's on this set.  Is this yet another performance outside of the 30's and the EMI?

http://www.amazon.com/Walter-Gieseking-Previously-Performances-Broadcasts/dp/B000050HYS/ref=tmm_acd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1-fkmr0&qid=1421678543
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Todd

#64
January 19, 2015, 06:36:41 AM
Quote from: Bogey on January 19, 2015, 05:35:31 AM
What are the dates on this set?  Are they the same as the EMI?  Do they have the Preludes you were looking for, Todd?




This is a remastered reissue of the mostly mid-50s Debussy.  The '51 Preludes are not included.



Quote from: Bogey on January 19, 2015, 05:45:45 AM
And while I'm here



Looks like some Debussy from the late 40's on this set.  Is this yet another performance outside of the 30's and the EMI?


Those are radio recordings.  They are worth hearing for the Scriabin alone.
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Bogey

#65
January 19, 2015, 06:55:12 AM
Thanks.  Were the '51 Preludes ever released on disc?
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George

#66
January 19, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: Bogey on January 19, 2015, 06:55:12 AM
Thanks.  Were the '51 Preludes ever released on disc?

According to this discography, no.
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Bogey

#67
January 19, 2015, 08:11:44 AM
Can you post the recording of these that does exist, buddy?  Also, how many Emperors did he record?  Just sampled a couple on YouTube. I believe one was from'34 and really enjoyed the first movement.
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George

#68
January 19, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: Bogey on January 19, 2015, 08:11:44 AM
Can you post the recording of these that does exist, buddy?  Also, how many Emperors did he record?  Just sampled a couple on YouTube. I believe one was from'34 and really enjoyed the first movement.

The one that does exist you posted earlier.

As for your second question, the link I provided above will give you the info you seek.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Chris L.

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January 20, 2015, 01:45:39 PM Last Edit: January 20, 2015, 01:49:22 PM by Christopher
Quote from: Bogey on January 19, 2015, 05:35:31 AM
What are the dates on this set?  Are they the same as the EMI?  Do they have the Preludes you were looking for, Todd?


I believe this is the same four disc set "Complete Piano Works" that was released by EMI years ago, except in new packaging and SACD format. That set contained both sets of Preludes. I don't think they were from 1951 but a few years later. Where were the 1951 Preludes recorded? Live concert/Radio Broadcast?

George

#70
February 17, 2023, 01:28:39 PM


Now enjoying a first spin of this 2CD set. It was released last year and I am not sure how I missed it. I am a huge fan of APR's releases and this one is no exception. The transfers, by Andrew Hallifax, are open and the first time his very first set (1936-39) of the Debussy Preludes by Gieseking has been issued on CD in transfers that are this unfiltered. The second disc has tons of early Gieseking Debussy recordings from 1931-49. Of note, this first recording by Gieseking of the Debussy Preludes is not included in full in the Warner box set.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Todd

#71
February 17, 2023, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: George on February 17, 2023, 01:28:39 PM

Of note, this first recording by Gieseking of the Debussy Preludes is not included in full in the Warner box set.

This is the same set as released on VAI, is it not?  Just need to know if I need to buy more than the big box, which I will be acquiring in the near future.
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George

#72
February 17, 2023, 01:54:44 PM
Quote from: Todd on February 17, 2023, 01:49:02 PMThis is the same set as released on VAI, is it not?  Just need to know if I need to buy more than the big box, which I will be acquiring in the near future.

Yes, same set as VAI but in much better sound.
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Todd

#73
February 17, 2023, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: George on February 17, 2023, 01:54:44 PMYes, same set as VAI but in much better sound.

I can probably live with the VAI set - for the time being.  I am getting ready to hear the '51 Preludes and then to do a Gieseking LvB cycle, sans Op 54, by combining the Tahra and EMI/Warner box.  There are some other gems in there.  I have been waiting to get my hands on some of the recordings for more than twenty years.
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George

#74
February 17, 2023, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: Todd on February 17, 2023, 01:57:48 PMI can probably live with the VAI set - for the time being.  I am getting ready to hear the '51 Preludes and then to do a Gieseking LvB cycle, sans Op 54, by combining the Tahra and EMI/Warner box.  There are some other gems in there.  I have been waiting to get my hands on some of the recordings for more than twenty years.

Correction - it is the Preludes in the APR that is the same as the VAI. Not sure about the rest. Here's the details:

"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

Todd

#75
February 17, 2023, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: George on February 17, 2023, 02:06:22 PMCorrection - it is the Preludes in the APR that is the same as the VAI. Not sure about the rest. Here's the details:



It looks like all complete 30s sets are remasterings of the same recordings: http://trmsolutions.co.kr/music/Gieseking/discography-gieseking.htm?ckattempt=1#Debussy

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Brian

#76
February 17, 2023, 02:59:37 PM
I posted this in Box Blather on Feb. 1, as a potential buyer curious if anyone has any experience with it:

There are some complains on European Amazon websites about:



Apparently the remasterings of CDs 1-6 feature severe distortion, a digital "ringing" sound just above middle C.

Todd

#77
February 17, 2023, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Brian on February 17, 2023, 02:59:37 PMApparently the remasterings of CDs 1-6 feature severe distortion, a digital "ringing" sound just above middle C.

I would guess all sets display the same problems.  I will find out pretty soon.
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Mandryka

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February 18, 2023, 12:12:42 AM Last Edit: February 18, 2023, 12:14:56 AM by Mandryka
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George

#79
June 16, 2023, 09:05:59 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on February 18, 2023, 12:12:42 AMhttps://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8022254--walter-gieseking-1933-1947

This is an excellent Gieseking recording

Re the APR stuff, I'd be interested to know what people make of the Chopin on this one

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8034666--walter-gieseking-the-complete-homocord-recordings-and-other-rarities

The Nocturne Op. 9/3 sounds like the pianist had too much beer before the recording and was rushing off the the bathroom. The other nocturne is lovely, though. The other Chopin works I enjoyed, just to a lesser extent.
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