Quiz: Mystery scores

[Luke]

Actually, to me no 5 looks a lot like a very famous piece, and the composer of that piece, although not this composer's father, was closely connected to him.

[Florestan]

Actually, to me no 5 looks a lot like a very famous piece, and the composer of that piece, although not this composer's father, was closely connected to him.

Hmmmm... Soulima Stravinsky and something like Rimsky-Korsakov's Flight of the Bumblebee?

[classicalgeek]

No. 3 is by Johann Christian Bach... "The London Bach". Makes some sense that he did arrangements of Scottish folk songs.

[Luke]

No. 3 is by Johann Christian Bach... "The London Bach". Makes some sense that he did arrangements of Scottish folk songs.

Is correct. And Florestan's guess for no 5, whilst not correct, is so pertinent that it reminds me why I love this thread so much.

[Karl Henning]

Is correct. And Florestan's guess for no 5, whilst not correct, is so pertinent that it reminds me why I love this thread so much.

One of Soulima Stravinsky's Etudes Pittoresques?

[VonStupp]

Since you've posted it, #5 reminds me terribly of Mussorgsky's Pictures 'Promenade' (it would have to be the d minor one). It doesn't seem to fit the theme though and I have never looked at the piano score.
VS

[Luke]

Since you've posted it, #5 reminds me terribly of Mussorgsky's Pictures 'Promenade' (it would have to be the d minor one). It doesn't seem to fit the theme though and I have never looked at the piano score.
VS

Yes, that's the resemblance I meant. It looks so similar (but it isn't). So the resemblance is to Mussorgsky, not Rimsky, and the piece isn't by Soulima Stravinsky.

[Karl Henning]

Yes, that's the resemblance I meant. It looks so similar (but it isn't). So the resemblance is to Mussorgsky, not Rimsky, and the piece isn't by Soulima Stravinsky.

Pity. The similarity I fancied I perceived was to the opening of the Symphony of Psalms.

[Florestan]

Is correct. And Florestan's guess for no 5, whilst not correct, is so pertinent that it reminds me why I love this thread so much.

Andrey Rimsky-Korsakov? Various internet sources claim he was a musicologist and acoustical engineer. Did he also compose? I couldn't find anything in this respect. 

[Luke]

Close enough. The other brother, Georgy. Dad's link with Mussorgsky is obvious, including making this edition of the Pictures. Compare with his son's piece:

[BWV 1080]

On these:

1


2


3: El Enterriano


here are images from the first edition covers of 1 and 2 (not saying which is which)



not sure how I can make these more obvious...

[Florestan]

Close enough. The other brother, Georgy. Dad's link with Mussorgsky is obvious, including making this edition of the Pictures. Compare with his son's piece:

But, Luke, you are mistaken. Georgy was not Nikolai's son but his grandson, not Andrey's brother but his nephew. You sent me/us on a wild goose chase. 

https://www.encyclopedia.com/arts/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/rimsky-korsakov-georgi-mikhailovich

[Luke]

Hmmmm, how to save face....?

OK, how about: I don't know how you speak English in your country, but over here 'sons' means any direct male descendant, I thought that was obvious....


does that work? No?

What about: yes, Georgy, the son of the much better known Andrey, whose tunes I'm certainly whistling day and night.

Actually - mea culpa! I'm not sure why I thought he was a son, I must have read it, or thought I'd read it somewhere. Funnily enough, I wrote (a bit) about him, in connection to experiments he made in microtonality, in a book I was writing a couple of years ago. So I must have known the truth then, and subsequently it morphed into this horrific aberration by which I am suitably appalled. I retreat into my hole of shame.

[Luke]

On these:

1


2


3: El Enterriano


here are images from the first edition covers of 1 and 2 (not saying which is which)



not sure how I can make these more obvious...

Making me feel even more foolish!     

[Florestan]

Hmmmm, how to save face....?

OK, how about: I don't know how you speak English in your country, but over here 'sons' means any direct male descendant, I thought that was obvious....


does that work? No?

What about: yes, Georgy, the son of the much better known Andrey, whose tunes I'm certainly whistling day and night.

Actually - mea culpa! I'm not sure why I thought he was a son, I must have read it, or thought I'd read it somewhere. Funnily enough, I wrote (a bit) about him, in connection to experiments he made in microtonality, in a book I was writing a couple of years ago. So I must have known the truth then, and subsequently it morphed into this horrific aberration by which I am suitably appalled. I retreat into my hole of shame.

No worries, Luke, can happen to anyone. At least I learned something: that Nikolai had a son and this son in turn had a composer nephew. 

[Luke]

There's this guy, too:

https://www.gabrielprokofiev.com/

[BWV 1080]

Making me feel even more foolish!     

Also what looks like a tango in #2 is a habanera rhythm which came from the non-hispanic composer's visit to Cuba, and is somewhat unusual for its genre. 

[BWV 1080]

and if I am feeling tomorrow like I am feeling today, I might drop another clue

[BWV 1080]

Ok here is a hint for one of them

[Luke]

OK, I know who that is and what you are probably referring to, but struggling to see how that connects to a part of the liturgical calendar