Anybody considering leaving Twitter?

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Todd

Quote from: Brian on July 04, 2023, 04:17:58 AMI've already seen AI generated reviews on Google Maps.

AI "news" articles pop up on MSN.  They are easy to spot - they have better grammar than most online human scribes, but are even more vapid. 
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

DavidW

Quote from: greg on July 03, 2023, 09:53:10 PMOh, it's the AI's doing the scraping... now that all makes sense.

Well, the immediate solution that comes to mind probably isn't achievable then, or it would have been done already... something like have a separate website with a copy of everything (post/tweets), backed up daily that the AI can use for training, instead of affecting a site with user traffic.

Well for sure that is what is happening with Reddit.  I don't really know what is going on with Twitter because I don't use it.  They could be just trying to capitalize on the minority of whales that disproportionally use the platform without punishing the casual users.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on July 04, 2023, 04:24:54 AMAI reviews?!  Scary!
A couple of weeks ago, I was watching a YouTube video (something like "Five Great Noir movies") The narrated summaries were so formulaic and repetitive I thought, "Either this is an unusually dull person, or AI."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Karl Henning on July 04, 2023, 06:34:52 AMA couple of weeks ago, I was watching a YouTube video (something like "Five Great Noir movies") The narrated summaries were so formulaic and repetitive I thought, "Either this is an unusually dull person, or AI."
That could explain some of the commentaries that I've seen on  youtube.  Very robotic sounding (stilted) and no real information.

PD

Pohjolas Daughter


DavidW

Quote from: Karl Henning on July 04, 2023, 06:34:52 AMA couple of weeks ago, I was watching a YouTube video (something like "Five Great Noir movies") The narrated summaries were so formulaic and repetitive I thought, "Either this is an unusually dull person, or AI."

I saw a whole video on it

Definitely becoming a problem.

Spotted Horses

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on July 04, 2023, 06:48:33 AMThat could explain some of the commentaries that I've seen on  youtube.  Very robotic sounding (stilted) and no real information.

PD


If it is true, as Elon Musk alleges, that AI is being trained by scraping tweets, perhaps AI should be rebranded AS, artificial stupidity.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Mona CharenAs a tech naïf myself, I don't have a prediction about what will happen, but can report my own profoundly mixed feelings. On Twitter, I've made friends, discovered great articles, learned to reevaluate old adversaries, and been amused and enlightened.

On the other hand, the site has arguably played a big role in degrading public discourse. It has rewarded snark and cynicism at the expense of nuance and enabled cyberbullying. Elon Musk has made all of that worse. If it dies or becomes a desiccated husk of its former self, I will miss it but not mourn it.

RTWT here.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Que

QuoteQuote from: Mona Charen
As a tech naïf myself, I don't have a prediction about what will happen, but can report my own profoundly mixed feelings. On Twitter, I've made friends, discovered great articles, learned to reevaluate old adversaries, and been amused and enlightened.

On the other hand, the site has arguably played a big role in degrading public discourse. It has rewarded snark and cynicism at the expense of nuance and enabled cyberbullying. Elon Musk has made all of that worse. If it dies or becomes a desiccated husk of its former self, I will miss it but not mourn it.

Unfortunately misbehaviour that is not limited to Twitter, but it does seem to be a free haven.

T. D.

Quote from: Spotted Horses on July 04, 2023, 06:59:01 AMIf it is true, as Elon Musk alleges, that AI is being trained by scraping tweets, perhaps AI should be rebranded AS, artificial stupidity.

Exactly!

I was intending to post precisely this sentiment, except using the acronym AI = Artificial Imbecility.

:laugh:

brewski

Still hanging on for the moment, but it seems clear that Twitter's new owner views the platform as a plaything, at best. I've made some good friends via Twitter, but those days seem over, and I'm on it less and less each week.

Oh well.

-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)



amw

I always found Facebook/Instagram  harder to use than Twitter because they don't show you content in chronological order, making them useless for following breaking news stories or local transit alerts etc. Of course Twitter also got pretty useless for that towards the end.

That said, much depends on who ends up using any of the Twitter clones. I'm not really interested in any social network dominated by brands, influencers, celebrities, video content, or even individual journalists for that matter, but I would like a place where I can hear brief text-based updates from government agencies, news organisations, and total nerds with large amounts of useless knowledge. If the Instagram app fulfils that purpose (which I doubt it will) I'm satisfied.

Jo498

Twitter seems to work again as usual within my volume of use (which might be well within the restriction of a non paying user). It seems there was some general problem last weekend.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Todd

Quote from: Que on July 05, 2023, 10:22:55 PMMakes sense, now is any aspiring competitor's chance.

Huh?  Meta is one of the largest tech companies in the world - it's hardly an "aspiring competitor".

Anyway, may the best billionaire win!
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

JBS

Quote from: amw on July 05, 2023, 10:53:25 PMI always found Facebook/Instagram  harder to use than Twitter because they don't show you content in chronological order, making them useless for following breaking news stories or local transit alerts etc. Of course Twitter also got pretty useless for that towards the end.

That said, much depends on who ends up using any of the Twitter clones. I'm not really interested in any social network dominated by brands, influencers, celebrities, video content, or even individual journalists for that matter, but I would like a place where I can hear brief text-based updates from government agencies, news organisations, and total nerds with large amounts of useless knowledge. If the Instagram app fulfils that purpose (which I doubt it will) I'm satisfied.

Also my general attitude.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

JBS

Quote from: Jo498 on July 05, 2023, 11:07:41 PMTwitter seems to work again as usual within my volume of use (which might be well within the restriction of a non paying user). It seems there was some general problem last weekend.

Are you using an app or a desktop browser to read it? The restrictions (if they remain) seem to have affected apps, not desktops.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Karl Henning

Remember: Musk's offer to buy Twitter was just a big bone-headed troll which backfired. He had no actual plan for operating it.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot