Tippett's Tearoom

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Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Scion7

Quote from: vandermolen on May 23, 2007, 03:40:25 AMOne of my work colleagues, as a boy, did gardening for Tippet. One day Tippet found him asleep in a wheelbarrow. ;D

And did Tippet give him a sound thrashing for taking a lie-down on the job?!?!?  >:D
Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: vandermolen on May 23, 2007, 03:40:25 AMOne of my work colleagues, as a boy, did gardening for Tippet. One day Tippet found him asleep in a wheelbarrow. ;D
:o Asleep on the job...and in a wheelbarrow!  Sounds like he was really young (to be able to fit into a wheelbarrow) and perhaps hard-pressed for money and struggling to balance school work with maybe needed income?  Just some thoughts.  Do you know more?

PD

vandermolen

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 28, 2023, 02:46:17 PM:o Asleep on the job...and in a wheelbarrow!  Sounds like he was really young (to be able to fit into a wheelbarrow) and perhaps hard-pressed for money and struggling to balance school work with maybe needed income?  Just some thoughts.  Do you know more?

PD
Come to think of it my friend was gardening for Tippett's mother (Mrs Kemp I think) who lived locally. My friend was probably a teenager (I'll ask him when I next see him). I think that Mrs Kemp told my friend that he could have a rest whenever he wanted to. It was unfortunate that one of his 'wheelbarrow naps' coincided with a visit from Tippett to see his mother.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Irons

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 28, 2023, 02:46:17 PM:o Asleep on the job...and in a wheelbarrow!  Sounds like he was really young (to be able to fit into a wheelbarrow) and perhaps hard-pressed for money and struggling to balance school work with maybe needed income?  Just some thoughts.  Do you know more?

PD

This little chap wide awake in my wheelbarrow! No trouble fitting him in either.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: vandermolen on October 29, 2023, 01:52:43 AMCome to think of it my friend was gardening for Tippett's mother (Mrs Kemp I think) who lived locally. My friend was probably a teenager (I'll ask him when I next see him). I think that Mrs Kemp told my friend that he could have a rest whenever he wanted to. It was unfortunate that one of his 'wheelbarrow naps' coincided with a visit from Tippett to see his mother.
;D

PD

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Irons on October 30, 2023, 09:13:32 AMThis little chap wide awake in my wheelbarrow! No trouble fitting him in either.
Cute!  :) Is he one of your children's pets?

PD

Karl Henning

Quote from: vandermolen on October 29, 2023, 01:52:43 AMCome to think of it my friend was gardening for Tippett's mother (Mrs Kemp I think) who lived locally. My friend was probably a teenager (I'll ask him when I next see him). I think that Mrs Kemp told my friend that he could have a rest whenever he wanted to. It was unfortunate that one of his 'wheelbarrow naps' coincided with a visit from Tippett to see his mother.
It was another lesson to the composer that timing is everything. 
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Karl Henning on October 30, 2023, 10:35:47 AMIt was another lesson to the composer that timing is everything.
lol  :)

PD

Luke

This wheelbarrow story interests me, because I remember, when I was growing up, a family friend who, working at Dartington one year, had found Harrison Birtwistle slumbering in a wheelbarrow in exactly the same way.

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Luke on October 30, 2023, 11:18:11 AMThis wheelbarrow story interests me, because I remember, when I was growing up, a family friend who, working at Dartington one year, had found Harrison Birtwistle slumbering in a wheelbarrow in exactly the same way.
lol!  Thinking about wheelbarrows a bit more, I realized that some can be quite big (mine isn't).  Is it still a wheelbarrow--or maybe a cart--if it's flat, fairly big (thinking of ones with wooden bottoms)?

PD

Luke

The Philosopher's Wheelbarrow



(Karl, I have a title for you...)

lordlance

Heard Tippett 1 for the first time:


Unlike some other Tippett I heard this was not inaccessible/anxiety-inducing. Kind of nice actually.
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foxandpeng

Quote from: lordlance on February 06, 2024, 12:26:41 AMHeard Tippett 1 for the first time:


Unlike some other Tippett I heard this was not inaccessible/anxiety-inducing. Kind of nice actually.

Tippett rewards repeat listening, in my experience. Not with cash or anything, but you can't have everything.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Irons

Quote from: foxandpeng on February 06, 2024, 06:26:27 AMTippett rewards repeat listening, in my experience. Not with cash or anything, but you can't have everything.

Listening to his first three quartets recently my feeling is this is serious music by a serious composer. Wish he would lighten up now and again.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

DaveF

Quote from: lordlance on February 06, 2024, 12:26:41 AMHeard Tippett 1 for the first time.

Unlike some other Tippett I heard this was not inaccessible/anxiety-inducing. Kind of nice actually.

Much the best of the 3 recordings of this symphony, to my ears.  I found the "Shostakovich" passacaglia (whisper it: better than DSCH) 2nd movement absolutely shattering.

The companion disc (actually 2 discs) of nos. 3 & 4 plus the early Symphony in B flat is fascinating for this early piece - Tippett in his hitherto undocumented Sibelius period.
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison

foxandpeng

Quote from: Irons on February 06, 2024, 07:26:54 AMListening to his first three quartets recently my feeling is this is serious music by a serious composer. Wish he would lighten up now and again.

I can see why you would say that. A 10k run can be amazing, but sometimes stopping to take a breath stops you getting a stitch.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Luke

There's plenty of 'lighter' Tippett, though, from the 1st Piano Sonata (particularly the last movement) and the delicious Sonata for Four Horns, to Crown of the Year, the Concerto for Double String Orchestra and the Suite for the Birthday of Prince Charles.

foxandpeng

Quote from: Luke on February 06, 2024, 10:25:19 AMthe Concerto for Double String Orchestra 

What a great piece of music. Also, the Triple Concerto for Violin, Viola, Cello. The Rose Lake.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Albion

Most of the Tippett that I actually enjoy comes from quite early in his career: the Concerto for Double String Orchestra, "Suite for the Birthday of Prince Charles", Symphony No.1, the Piano Concerto and "The Midsummer Marriage". I don't much care for "A Child of Our Time" which seems to me worthy but largely unmemorable apart from the spirituals. As to many of his later works, having endured live performances of "The Vision of St Augustine" and "King Priam", no thanks...
A piece is worth your attention, and is itself for you praiseworthy, if it makes you feel you have not wasted your time over it. (SG, 1922)