The Maximilian Steinberg (1883-1946) thread.

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Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2019, 02:40:01 PM
Hooray! I knew that you'd like it Cesar. Now, following your recommendation, I'll have to track down Symphony 1, especially if it's like Glazunov's 8th Symphony - which is one of my favourites.  :)

I felt that link between both works in terms of orchestration and late-Romantic flavour, though the MS's 2nd would be more accurate to compare with the Glazunov. Anyway, the 1st Sym. by Steinberg is wonderful indeed!


vandermolen

#22
Here's a picture of Steinberg (standing) with his wife and father in law, Rimsky Korsakov (long beard) and Stravinsky:
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To be released on November 15th:



How surprising when I found out that the Symphony No. 3 only lasts 15 min! I was expecting something more meaty between 35 and 40 min long. Anyway, as a completist, I want it. The Shostakovich, on the other hand, does last 40 min.

Only his 5th and last symphony remains unrecorded, and hopefully it will get available in the near future (crossing my fingers).
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vandermolen

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on October 02, 2024, 08:15:27 PMTo be released on November 15th:



How surprising when I found out that the Symphony No. 3 only lasts 15 min! I was expecting something more meaty between 35 and 40 min long. Anyway, as a completist, I want it. The Shostakovich, on the other hand, does last 40 min.

Only his 5th and last symphony remains unrecorded, and hopefully it will get available in the near future (crossing my fingers).
OMG! Now you are tempting me Cesar - aren't you!  ;D
Obviously I have to have this CD 15 minutes or not! I like those Ural Youth Orchestra recordings - they sound very professional to me. There's a fine recent release including Miaskovsky's epic 17th Symphony.
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Quote from: vandermolen on October 03, 2024, 01:13:23 AMOMG! Now you are tempting me Cesar - aren't you!  ;D
Obviously I have to have this CD 15 minutes or not! I like those Ural Youth Orchestra recordings - they sound very professional to me. There's a fine recent release including Miaskovsky's epic 17th Symphony.

Since you like to purchase the physical CD, probably it won't be worth the investment given the length of that symphony, Jeffrey.

I need to give that recording of Myaskovsky's 17th a listen as it's one of my very favorites. Thanks for mentioning it.
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rkhenderson

I just purchased the CD of Steinberg Symphony No. 3. It's actually around 34 minutes long contrary to the statements above.

kyjo

Quote from: rkhenderson on November 16, 2024, 08:15:57 AMI just purchased the CD of Steinberg Symphony No. 3. It's actually around 34 minutes long contrary to the statements above.

Oh, that's good to know, thanks! I'm looking forward to hearing it.

Recently I was giving this disc a spin:



The First Symphony in D major is a sunny, energetic work in the manner of Glazunov, and I'd say it's more inspired than some (but not all) of that composer's symphonies. I think the most remarkable movement is the finale, which has a genuinely thrilling and unhackneyed conclusion. The two "filler" works from a few years later are in the slightly more "advanced", darker idiom of his wonderful Second Symphony. The Prelude symphonique (to the memory of Rimsky-Korsakov) is a real find, with a powerful climax reminiscent of the coda of the Second Symphony with its low, tolling "bell tones" played by the piano. The Fantaisie symphonique is a bit less memorable but still makes for an eventful listen. This music is right up Neeme Jarvi's alley, and the Gothenburgers play with real conviction under his baton.
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Irons

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on October 02, 2024, 08:15:27 PMTo be released on November 15th:



How surprising when I found out that the Symphony No. 3 only lasts 15 min! I was expecting something more meaty between 35 and 40 min long. Anyway, as a completist, I want it. The Shostakovich, on the other hand, does last 40 min.

Only his 5th and last symphony remains unrecorded, and hopefully it will get available in the near future (crossing my fingers).

Don't shoot the messenger but reading on another forum that Fuga Libera have badly messed up with this release. Mixing their Steinberg and Shostakovich tracks into an unholy mess.
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Roy Bland

Quote from: Irons on November 20, 2024, 06:44:03 AMDon't shoot the messenger but reading on another forum that Fuga Libera have badly messed up with this release. Mixing their Steinberg and Shostakovich tracks into an unholy mess.
It's collage tecnique

vandermolen

I've really been enjoying the 3rd Symphony by Steinberg. Thank you Cesar for alerting us to its existence. I think that it would appeal to any admirers of its dedicatee Miaskovsky.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

foxandpeng

Quote from: vandermolen on November 27, 2024, 02:40:03 AMI've really been enjoying the 3rd Symphony by Steinberg. Thank you Cesar for alerting us to its existence. I think that it would appeal to any admirers of its dedicatee Miaskovsky.

Very much agreed.
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dhibbard

Yes thank you for alerting us of the Symphony no 3 release.   I listened to it many times now.. the 3rd movement is really wonderful... based on a Jewish song "God will Build Galilee".    Anyone have a recording of Symphony no 5?   I had read that the St. Petersburg Symphony had preformed it a few times??

vandermolen

Quote from: dhibbard on December 07, 2024, 01:59:51 PMYes thank you for alerting us of the Symphony no 3 release.   I listened to it many times now.. the 3rd movement is really wonderful... based on a Jewish song "God will Build Galilee".    Anyone have a recording of Symphony no 5?   I had read that the St. Petersburg Symphony had preformed it a few times??
Yes, I only need No.5 to complete my Steinberg symphony collection!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Roy Bland

Quote from: vandermolen on December 08, 2024, 12:37:44 AMYes, I only need No.5 to complete my Steinberg symphony collection!
IMHO is surely better a professional recording on disc rather than yet another video taken from yt

foxandpeng

Quote from: vandermolen on December 08, 2024, 12:37:44 AMYes, I only need No.5 to complete my Steinberg symphony collection!

Ah, the value of physical media strikes again!
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Roy Bland

Quote from: foxandpeng on December 09, 2024, 05:10:27 AMAh, the value of physical media strikes again!
I know it's in progress even if I am not sure that it includes Steinberg's Fifth
A few months later, a contract was signed with the record company «Outhere Music», which owns ten famous classical labels. Part of the agreement included a plan for recordings and releases in the coming years. The recording includes Dmitry Liss with the Ural Philharmonic Orchestra, Andrey Petrenko and the Yekaterinburg Philharmonic Symphony Choir, Dmitry Filatov and Alexander Rudin with the Ural Youth Symphony Orchestra. The repertoire policy is up to the artistic directors of the groups. As part of the cooperation, a decision was made to give priority to the recording and distribution of music by Russian composers. In three years, works by more than 30 composers have been recorded, including symphonic works by Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, Myaskovsky, Shostakovich, Cherepnin, Steinberg, choral masterpieces by Arensky, Arkhangelsky, Balakirev, Grecianinov, Dargomyzhsky, Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Rubinstein, Chesnokov and others. The soundtracks included 18 albums, including 11 studio albums and seven recorded from live concerts. To date, 12 digital albums have been released under the Fuga Libera label, 8 of which have been released on CD.

foxandpeng

Quote from: Roy Bland on December 09, 2024, 05:57:04 PMI know it's in progress even if I am not sure that it includes Steinberg's Fifth
A few months later, a contract was signed with the record company «Outhere Music», which owns ten famous classical labels. Part of the agreement included a plan for recordings and releases in the coming years. The recording includes Dmitry Liss with the Ural Philharmonic Orchestra, Andrey Petrenko and the Yekaterinburg Philharmonic Symphony Choir, Dmitry Filatov and Alexander Rudin with the Ural Youth Symphony Orchestra. The repertoire policy is up to the artistic directors of the groups. As part of the cooperation, a decision was made to give priority to the recording and distribution of music by Russian composers. In three years, works by more than 30 composers have been recorded, including symphonic works by Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, Myaskovsky, Shostakovich, Cherepnin, Steinberg, choral masterpieces by Arensky, Arkhangelsky, Balakirev, Grecianinov, Dargomyzhsky, Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Rubinstein, Chesnokov and others. The soundtracks included 18 albums, including 11 studio albums and seven recorded from live concerts. To date, 12 digital albums have been released under the Fuga Libera label, 8 of which have been released on CD.

Interesting! Thanks, Roy 🙂
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