The Most Delicate Opera ?

Started by Operahaven, March 21, 2008, 05:59:32 PM

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Operahaven

Which is the most musically delicate opera in your opinion ?
I worship Debussy's gentle revolution  -  Prelude To The Afternoon of A Faun  -  for its mostly carefree mood and its rich variety of exquisite sounds.

DavidW

Delicate as in what?  As in a delicate or fragile beauty kind of thing?  A porcelain doll opera?  I've got to understand the concept since the two words "delicate" and "opera" don't really go together.

Mozart

Didn't even know you liked opera. I think he means in terms of performance. Some operas need the perfect singers and conducting. I just can't think of any.

Operahaven

Quote from: DavidW on March 21, 2008, 07:42:44 PM
Delicate as in what?  As in a delicate or fragile beauty kind of thing?  A porcelain doll opera?  I've got to understand the concept since the two words "delicate" and "opera" don't really go together.

David,

Yes, delicate as in 'fragile beauty' and with the richest variety of delicate sounds.
I worship Debussy's gentle revolution  -  Prelude To The Afternoon of A Faun  -  for its mostly carefree mood and its rich variety of exquisite sounds.

(poco) Sforzando

I can't imagine what opera you might have in mind . . . .  :D
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

knight66

No....nothing coming to mind I am afraid.

Mike
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marvinbrown

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Quote from: Operahaven on March 22, 2008, 05:10:38 AM
David,

Yes, delicate as in 'fragile beauty' and with the richest variety of delicate sounds.


  Well the only opera that I can think of that meets that criteria is R. Strauss's Der Rosenkavalier, how many would agree with me on this one?


  marvin
 

knight66

Rosenkavalier delicate and fragile....you have been listening to too much Wagner.

Mike
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marvinbrown

Quote from: knight on March 22, 2008, 06:02:19 AM
Rosenkavalier delicate and fragile....you have been listening to too much Wagner.

Mike

  Oh Mike how could you be so cruel to me  ;).

  marvin

sTisTi

How about Debussy's Pelléas et Mélisande?

DavidW

Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on March 21, 2008, 08:37:34 PM
Didn't even know you liked opera.

I like opera, but I hate the blathering that I usually find about opera on this board.  I'm talking about the Wagnerites.  I don't across the board love opera, but these composers write stuff that I enjoy and listen to-- Bartok, Berlioz, Mozart.  I also like Wagner, but listening to dz and his like blathering on about his greatness is about as fun as having a railroad spike hammered through your eye into your brain.


knight66

Quote from: sTisTi on March 22, 2008, 07:21:51 AM
How about Debussy's Pelléas et Mélisande?

No, I have listened to that one, it cannot possibly be it. Try again. How about Falstaff, well bits of it.

Mike
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Tsaraslondon

Quote from: knight on March 22, 2008, 07:54:05 AM
Try again. How about Falstaff, well bits of it.

Mike

And surely that's the point. Many operas might have delicate bits, Falstaff being a case in point,  but no opera, or symphony for that matter,  is going to be delicate throughout. Wouldn't that just be monotonous?

\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: knight on March 22, 2008, 07:54:05 AM
No, I have listened to that one, it cannot possibly be it. Try again. How about Falstaff, well bits of it.

Mike

Even Siegfried has delicate bits.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

BachQ

Quote from: Operahaven on March 21, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
Which is the most musically delicate opera in your opinion ?

Wozzeck ......... without a glimmer of doubt ..........

greg

Quote from: Dm on March 22, 2008, 02:58:09 PM
Wozzeck ......... without a glimmer of doubt ..........

I'm sure Penderecki's The Devils of London kicks Wozzeck's butt in terms of delicacy...... (though i've never heard it)

max


The new erato

Quote from: Sforzando on March 22, 2008, 02:46:47 PM
Even Siegfried has delicate bits.
If his bits were delicate, perhaps we never would have gotten around to Gøtterdammerung.

BachQ

Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on March 22, 2008, 03:52:03 PM
I'm sure Penderecki's The Devils of London kicks Wozzeck's butt in terms of delicacy...... (though i've never heard it)

It's "The Devils of Loudun" (Loudon being a city in France) ......... but, yeah, we need to hear that delicate filigree of an opera soon ..........

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: erato on March 23, 2008, 02:14:00 AM
If his bits were delicate, perhaps we never would have gotten around to Gøtterdammerung.

Horse and all, Brünnhilde has bits enough for both of them.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."