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FideLeo

Quote from: premont on April 08, 2008, 08:50:56 PM
Exactly what Que said. Dave may have my Perlman set if he wants, but I can not recommend it.

Do you prefer Kuijken's 1st to his 2nd recording?   :)
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karlhenning

Quote from: BorisG on April 08, 2008, 09:13:58 PM
Best in the catalogue.

Do you mean, in the Arte Nova catalogue?

FideLeo

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Fast delivery...ordered just yesterday. 

Schmitt's interpretation of Bach violin soli must rank among the most free-wheeling of all.  She took a lot of liberty towards rhythms in the fugues, played all the arpeggios in full measure, and did not hesitate to keep strict time or to speed up and down as she thinks fit for a given passage.  It's like pushing one step further in the direction of Kuijken I (into loose ends ;)).. and definitely some Bach to daydream to.

I would be interested in hearing her Vol. 1, which has the d minor partita.  Those who prefer their Bach metrically TAUT, however, are advised to stay away from Mme Schmitt's loose-limbed performances!  ;D
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MN Dave

Quote from: Que on April 08, 2008, 08:34:01 PM
I haven't seen the Perlman recommended here often, at least I would advise against it - no match for Milstein at all.

Don't think there is much competition to Milstein in non-HIP, though I prefer his earlier recording on EMI. If you'd want another non-HIP, you might like Grumiaux.
But next to the Milstein a HIP recording would seem to me the best idea. Sigiswald Kuijken (DHM, 1st rec.) is my favourite there.

Q

Thanks, Q.

So, Milstein is the man in these. I'll have to get his earlier recording.

MN Dave

Quote from: premont on April 08, 2008, 08:50:56 PM
Exactly what Que said. Dave may have my Perlman set if he wants, but I can not recommend it.

I saw it recommended somewhere...  :-\

ChamberNut

Beethoven

Symphony No. 4 in B flat major, Op. 60

Symphony No. 7 in A major, Op. 92

Chamber Orchestra of Europe
Nikolaus Harnoncourt

Teldec

FideLeo

Quote from: MN Dave on April 09, 2008, 04:28:10 AM
I saw it recommended somewhere...  :-\

Most versions get recommended somewhere.  I just recommended Helene Schmitt's version above.  :D
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prémont

Quote from: fl.traverso on April 09, 2008, 12:34:56 AM
Do you prefer Kuijken's 1st to his 2nd recording?   :)

Not necessarily. I find them both among the best HIP-recordings of these works, I know.. The expressive Kuijken I and the more polished eterical beautiful Kuijken II. Marginally though I prefer Ingrid Matthews, who combines the expressivenes of I and the etherical beuty of II (most of the latter and with more pure tone). As I have written earlier even Holloway is a strong contender to Kuijken II.  
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DavidRoss

Quote from: MN Dave on April 08, 2008, 07:08:54 PM


I like these works--of course. But this is my only recording. Maybe I'll pick up the Perlman. I hear that's good.
Or try Rachel Podger.  Think I'll put her on right now!
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FideLeo

Quote from: premont on April 09, 2008, 04:45:25 AM
Not necessarily. I find them both among the best HIP-recordings of these works, I know.. The expressive Kuijken I and the more polished eterical beautiful Kuijken II. Marginally though I prefer Ingrid Matthews, who combines the expressivenes of I and the etherical beuty of II (most of the latter and with more pure tone). As I have written earlier even Holloway is a strong contender to Kuijken II.  


By now one must admit there are multiple "best" HIP recordings of these works....there are only relatives, no absolutes.  And this is the way it should be.  0:)
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ChamberNut

Johann Sebastian Bach

Brandenburg Concerto No. 4 in G minor

Brandenburg Concerto No. 5 in D major

Concerto in A minor, BWV 1044

Concerto in F major, BWV 1057

Cologne Chamber Orchestra
Helmut Muller-Bruhl

MN Dave

Quote from: DavidRoss on April 09, 2008, 04:48:10 AM
Or try Rachel Podger.  Think I'll put her on right now!

That's a new name to me.  :)

prémont

Quote from: fl.traverso on April 09, 2008, 04:48:44 AM
By now one must admit there are multiple "best" HIP recordings of these works....there are only relatives, no absolutes.  And this is the way it should be.  0:)


Yes, this has always been my point. This is why I practice multiple recordings magno gradu.
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FideLeo

Quote from: premont on April 09, 2008, 05:06:18 AM
Yes, this has always been my point. This is why I practice multiple recordings magno gradu.

Magno gradu in JSB's violin and cello solos....pardon me as I feel a bit dizzy... ;D
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prémont

Quote from: fl.traverso on April 09, 2008, 05:24:30 AM
Magno gradu in JSB's violin and cello solos....pardon me as I feel a bit dizzy... ;D

Not only in these works of course. ;)
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FideLeo

Quote from: premont on April 09, 2008, 05:27:29 AM
Not only in these works of course. ;)

I imagine the task at hand is only slightly less daunting than going m. g. in recordings of
Vivaldi's Four Seasons.  :o 
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prémont

Quote from: fl.traverso on April 09, 2008, 05:33:44 AM
I imagine the task at hand is only slightly less daunting than going m. g. in recordings of
Vivaldi's Four Seasons.  :o 

Vivaldi´s Four Seasons never engaged me that much -  I never owned more than a dozen versions, and for reasons of space, I have departed with some of these again. On the other hand the number of Bach Cellosuites I own is between forty and fifty, if you include versions for lute, viola da bracchio and da gamba, traverse flute, recorder and so on.
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Todd




Finished my second run through of this disc.  Pretty good stuff.  The Schoenberg is quite good, and more compelling than the Szeryng / Kubelik version (the only other version I have).  It still seems a bit too long in parts.  The Sibelius is very good - and splendidly played - but here I find others more compelling, like say Gitlis or Heifetz.
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FideLeo

Quote from: premont on April 09, 2008, 05:58:29 AM
On the other hand the number of Bach Cellosuites I own is between forty and fifty, if you include versions for lute, viola da bracchio and da gamba, traverse flute, recorder and so on.

In that case, don't forget to commission one from Dmitry Badiarov, who has resolved to record the suites on his reconstructed Violoncello piccolo da spalla.
http://dmitrybadiarov.com/


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