My string quartet

[lukeottevanger]

It's called developing a capacity for critical discrimination.

[PSmith08]

It's called developing a capacity for critical discrimination.

What, posting snippets of major works to make some sort of "objective" judgment isn't critical discrimination?

Woe! My mind is rent asunder most expertly, sir.

[lukeottevanger]

It's possible, of course, that's Rod's Quartet is constructed on a similar principle. I believe I recognise this particular B from Beethoven's Rasumovsky no 2, and in thus isolating it and presenting it as a 'work' in its own right, Rod is highlighting the profound quality of Beethoven's thought. Even his B's are better than Bach's.

[Rod Corkin]

What, posting snippets of major works to make some sort of "objective" judgment isn't critical discrimination?

Woe! My mind is rent asunder most expertly, sir.

Well the judgment of tracks at CMM is predominantly one of reviews of new recordings or purchases and also general musical interpretation, certainly in the case of Beethoven's symphonies for example - music which everyone had heard. In this respect presenting just one movement from a particular performance can say much more than an essay, far more efficiently too. This way I don't have to take someone else's word for it, I can judge for myself. If I want to read an essay I can go to a book shop, if I want to hear music I want to hear music. I find it perverse, but not surprising, that the many members of forums such as this one are actually anti-music. Not surprising because with my way of doing things it is so easy to expose those who are good at chit chat but have no musical taste or judgment.

Believe me if is far harder to get people to write just a few lines of personal critical assessment of one track than it is for them to present an essay on things that have already been written a million times on web. If you think that's not the case I look forward to reading some of your reviews at my site.

[lukeottevanger]

Well the judgment of tracks at CMM is predominantly one of reviews of new recordings or purchases and also general musical interpretation, certainly in the case of Beethoven's symphonies for example - music which everyone had heard. In this respect presenting just one movement from a particular performance can say much more than an essay, far more efficiently too. This way I don't have to take someone else's word for it, I can judge for myself. If I want to read an essay I can go to a book shop, if I want to hear music I want to hear music. I find it perverse, but not surprising, that the many members of forums such as this one are actually anti-music. Not surprising because with my way of doing things it is so easy to expose those who are good at chit chat but have no musical taste or judgment.

You're seeing what you want to see, Rod, if you think this forum has no audio-file based discussion of music - you've missed quite a few threads (e.g. M's Mystery Orchestra ones, and similar), in which the most perceptive listening possible is frequently illustrated by many, many GMGers. But this is not the only way to discuss music, and IMO is far from the best, for a variety of reasons.

Believe me if is far harder to get people to write just a few lines of personal critical assessment of one track than it is for them to present an essay on things that have already been written a million times on web. If you think that's not the case I look forward to reading some of your reviews at my site.

Again, it's my experience that people are more than happy to comment on music posted on this site - on threads presenting clips of commercial recordings, like those mentioned above, and also on the home-grown composers' threads. I've certainly got no complaint about the number of people who've listened to and commented on my own music.

It seems to be just your clips that don't really entice people into listening. I wonder why that could be.....

[karlhenning]

It seems to be just your clips that don't really entice people into listening. I wonder why that could be.....

Centuwion, why do they titter so?

[Topaz]

Centuwion, why do they titter so?

Because he wanks higher than any in Wome.

[lukeottevanger]

What a corkin' film! But I never realised how much...

Pontius Pilate
But what about Woderick, then?
Jewish Crowd
Yeah! Release Woderick! Release Woderick! [Laughter]
Pontius Pilate
Centurion, why do they...titter so?
Centurion
Just some, ehm...Jewish joke, sir.
Pontius Pilate
Are they...wagging me?
Centurion
Oh, no, sir!
Pontius Pilate
Very well, I shall release Woderick!
Centurion
Sir, we don't have a Woderick either.
Pontius Pilate
No Woger, no Woderick?
Centurion
Sorry, sir.
Pontius Pilate
Who is this Wod...who is this Woderick to whom you refer?
Man
He is a Wobber!
Man II
And a Wapist!
Woman
And a pickpocket!
Jewish Crowd
No, no!
Pontius Pilate
He sounds a notorious criminal.
Centurion
We haven't got him, sir.
Pontius Pilate
Do we have anyone in our prisons at all?

[Rod Corkin]

You're seeing what you want to see, Rod, if you think this forum has no audio-file based discussion of music - you've missed quite a few threads (e.g. M's Mystery Orchestra ones, and similar), in which the most perceptive listening possible is frequently illustrated by many, many GMGers. But this is not the only way to discuss music, and IMO is far from the best, for a variety of reasons.

Again, it's my experience that people are more than happy to comment on music posted on this site - on threads presenting clips of commercial recordings, like those mentioned above, and also on the home-grown composers' threads. I've certainly got no complaint about the number of people who've listened to and commented on my own music.

It seems to be just your clips that don't really entice people into listening. I wonder why that could be.....

What are you talking about, my clips? The other members have presented plenty of their own too, you dipstick! I suggest you remain silent until you know what you are talking about. I've been posting tracks at CM sites for years and I've had no complaints about the quality of the material I present. Au contraire my son. 

[Rod Corkin]

Centuwion, why do they titter so?

The only tit here is you Henning.

[lukeottevanger]

What are you talking about, my clips? The other members have presented plenty of their own too, you dipstick! I suggest you remain silent until you know what you are talking about. I've been posting tracks at CM sites for years and I've had no complaints about the quality of the material I present. Au contraire my son. 

I'm talking about the interminable Handel clips you posted here in your Handel vs Bach thread, Wod. They and the way in which you presented that whole pathetic farago told me all I needed to know about you and any board you might 'host'.

[lukeottevanger]

...and btw, I don't think anyone here has complained about the quality of the clips you present either. I'm sure they were perfectly lovely - after all, Handel's a pretty fine composer. It's the attitude of the person posting them which leaves the unpleasant aftertaste.

[Gurn Blanston]

The only tit here is you Henning.

I get it, it's a pun.

Still and all, I'm quite sure that calling people "dipsticks" is a transgression of, at the very least, common courtesy. Let's not carry that line any further, I don't have my mod periwig with me, and it chafes to wear my mod hat without it.   

[greg]

Luke was called a dipstick and Karl was called a retard. What is the world coming to? 

[Gurn Blanston]

Luke was called a dipstick and Karl was called a retard. What is the world coming to? 

I simply don't know, Greg. It seems you and I are the only civilized ones left, and frankly, I'm not too sure about you...

[greg]

Here's a picture of myself:



I'm refined enough, aren't I?

[Gurn Blanston]

This is precisely how I pictured you! Amazing! Who do you get to pick your nits for you? 

[greg]

This is precisely how I pictured you! Amazing! Who do you get to pick your nits for you? 

i had to look that one up.....
nits=lice

ahhhhhh 

um, i usually let Ubloobideega pick them. He's an expert nitpicker.

[Gurn Blanston]

i had to look that one up.....
nits=lice

ahhhhhh 

um, i usually let Ubloobideega pick them. He's an expert nitpicker.

Ah yes, a logical choice, although clearly not the Forum's only nitpicker.



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Listening to:
Schubert - Die schöne Müllerin - Jan Kobow / Kristian Bezuidenhout - Wohin?

[(poco) Sforzando]

I find it perverse, but not surprising, that the many members of forums such as this one are actually anti-music.

Considering that you have shown absolutely no interest in any but two composers, you're hardly one to talk.