Members leaving!

[Harry]

I am highly disturbed by the fact that some of the people I really like are leaving GMG, and I know from a few why, and that is the same reason with all of them. Many simply stopped posting, and leaving their membership intact, some left and erased their membership. There have been signals all over the place as to why, and now Andy wants to take a extended break, for reasons I can only guess at, but I think I know why. And that makes me quite angry, to a point that I even contemplate leaving GMG.

[Bonehelm]

I am highly disturbed by the fact that some of the people I really like are leaving GMG, and I know from a few why, and that is the same reason with all of them. Many simply stopped posting, and leaving their membership intact, some left and erased their membership. There have been signals all over the place as to why, and now Andy wants to take a extended break, for reasons I can only guess at, but I think I know why. And that makes me quite angry, to a point that I even contemplate leaving GMG.

Harry, one of the reasons is also the fact that some particular posters here are just malicious and being an asshole to one another in their posts, and making outrageous claims like "You don't know anything about music" when another member disagrees with his tastes. That get's very annoying, and I bet you know who I'm talking about. Those kind of people could be easily identified as they don't fit in the community.

[Harry]

Harry, one of the reasons is also the fact that some particular posters here are just malicious and being an asshole to one another in their posts, and making outrageous claims like "You don't know anything about music" when another member disagrees with his tastes. That get's very annoying, and I bet you know who I'm talking about. Those kind of people could be easily identified as they don't fit in the community.

True I know!
And besides him there are a few more.
I am and was targeted many times by it, and still.
Respect seems to be difficult to achieve with some people.
And its true too, that it annoys me more and more.
They do not fit in the community and are easily identified.

[ezodisy]

How ironic. So many people--the most intelligent--have stopped posting here because of you. If only you would leave they might come back. Not that I'm expecting you to, of course. One would need a modicum of shame for that.

[Harry]

How ironic. So many people--the most intelligent--have stopped posting here because of you. If only you would leave they might come back. Not that I'm expecting you to, of course. One would need a modicum of shame for that.

Yes thank you, I sort of expected that from you.
And you have proven my point.

[david johnson]

one can always ignore and 'consider the source' if need be.
it's not that big of a deal to me.  those who wish to appear inconsiderate or think too highly of their own statements impress only themselves.  every board has them.  i haven't really noticed very many of that nature here.

dj

[Lethevich]

If they don't feel any need for GMG for a while, I see it as a positive thing - they have found enough real life things to enjoy to not require sitting at the PC every day

[The new erato]

How ironic. So many people--the most intelligent--have stopped posting here because of you. If only you would leave they might come back. Not that I'm expecting you to, of course. One would need a modicum of shame for that.

Through a years membership I have never seen Harry act disgracefully towards other members. One might not always agree with him, but that's another thing entirely.

Seems to me that quite a lot of the aggravation on this board is founded in a very few members that lacks a modicum of respect for fellow boarders with whom they disagree, and who express their opinions in unnecessarily vulgar language.

I would be happy to see somewhat stronger moderation of the boards towards disrespectful threatment of fellowboarders (and this has nothing to do with opinions and disagreement, but how they are axpressed) .

[Harry]

Through a years membership I have never seen Harry act disgracefully towards other members. One might not always agree with him, but that's another thing entirely.

Seems to me that quite a lot of the aggravation on this board is founded in a very few members that lacks a modicum of respect for fellow boarders with whom they disagree, and who express their opinions in unnecessarily vulgar language.

I would be happy to see somewhat stronger moderation of the boards towards disrespectful treatment of fellow boarders (and this has nothing to do with opinions and disagreement, but how they are expressed) .

Thank you Erato, that are good words, I appreciate that very much. Not agreeing with me is fine, and okay, but the way I am sometimes answered, and others too, is shocking to my eyes.
And I agree as too stronger moderation, because in some instances people have used their right to express themselves in terms that are hurtful, and disrespectful.

[Harry]

If they don't feel any need for GMG for a while, I see it as a positive thing - they have found enough real life things to enjoy to not require sitting at the PC every day

Yes, I consider that also a good reason Sarah, but in many instances there is another reason for leaving or temporary absence.

[Harry]

one can always ignore and 'consider the source' if need be.
it's not that big of a deal to me.  those who wish to appear inconsiderate or think too highly of their own statements impress only themselves.  every board has them.  i haven't really noticed very many of that nature here.

dj

No, not many, but the few that are here, make for quite some havoc, at times.
But I agree, ignoring is best, and if you can that's great.
But some of us are not made that way unfortunately.

[Renfield]

May I note that suggesting someone is being disruptive, and then failing to have the decency to identify them by name, while also pretending that one might know who "belongs" or does not here, is a failure in etiquette all by itself?

I am not referring to Harry.

But isn't it convenient to allude, so others will actually have the onus on them to express the same view overtly?


And although I am loathe to use the "easy way out" (in my view) of being rude to make a point or react to something, I can often understand what triggers those who do.

Unless it's all this eye-for-an-eye, "he spat in my drink let me spit in his" mentality I'm overlooking, in which case maybe I should turn one of those short-term absences from the forum permanent: as, you know, "I don't fit in".


I hope I've made my point, which has nothing to do with me "threatening" to leave in any way. It has more to do about undercurrents of malignancy towards each other that rival my ancestral Byzantine ways. Honesty is expensive, it seems.

[(poco) Sforzando]

No, not many, but the few that are here, make for quite some havoc, at times.
But I agree, ignoring is best, and if you can that's great.
But some of us are not made that way unfortunately.

Well, you seem to think this site revolves around you and the people you think ought to be part of this forum (or not).

I am highly disturbed by the fact that some of the people I really like are leaving GMG...

And then on another thread:

Larry I do miss not, Nigel was always fun, until he turned against me, and in general I think the site is doing well enough without specific members, as Paul said.

Fact is, anyone who registers has the right to participate, and if some people are not to your liking, you either discuss the matter with them online or via PM, or you bring it up to the moderators and administrator, or you keep quiet and live with it. Seems to me that at least one person (ezodisy) has claimed that quite a few others have left specifically because of you. So maybe you shouldn't be so vocal about who stays and who goes, and you should recognize that maybe you too are capable of rubbing people the wrong way. Not everybody is going to get along all the time.

But just one word of friendly advice: if you do decide to leave, don't start a thread about it along the lines of "woe is me, this is such a terrible place, what a cruel world, I'm finished here and will never return, blah-blah-blah," in hopes of starting some kind of pity party for people to tell you how much they'll miss you when you're gone. Just go quietly. Otherwise, if you decide you really can't do without this place and want to come back, you're really going to have a lot of egg on your face. 

[Josquin des Prez]

I highly doubt anybody here would leave upon the erratic behavior of others. Boredom, lack of interest, a need for a chance or even lack of time are more likely factors.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I highly doubt anybody here would leave upon the erratic behavior of others. Boredom, lack of interest, a need for a chance or even lack of time are more likely factors.

Depends on the temperament. I have seen forums where there are clear instances of people leaving because they can't stand other members.

[Don]

Whenever a long-standing member departs, the "sky is falling" attitude seems to come to center stage.  I don't think there's anything to be concerned - people come, people go.  It's the nature of discussion boards.

[Harry]

Well, you seem to think this site revolves around you and the people you think ought to be part of this forum (or not).

That is such a silly thing to say, for a fully grown up man.


And then on another thread:

Fact is, anyone who registers has the right to participate, and if some people are not to your liking, you either discuss the matter with them online or via PM, or you bring it up to the moderators and administrator, or you keep quiet and live with it. Seems to me that at least one person (ezodisy) has claimed that quite a few others have left specifically because of you. So maybe you shouldn't be so vocal about who stays and who goes, and you should recognize that maybe you too are capable of rubbing people the wrong way. Not everybody is going to get along all the time.

Ezodisy can claim what he will, that is of no consequence. And I am as vocal as I want to be, for you are not the judge of my words.

But just one word of friendly advice: if you do decide to leave, don't start a thread about it along the lines of "woe is me, this is such a terrible place, what a cruel world, I'm finished here and will never return, blah-blah-blah," in hopes of starting some kind of pity party for people to tell you how much they'll miss you when you're gone. Just go quietly. Otherwise, if you decide you really can't do without this place and want to come back, you're really going to have a lot of egg on your face. 

You have a lot of antipathy against me my friend, I am really shocked by it, I honestly am.
I don't think that what you have given me, is friendly, by no means.

[Cato]

Tief einatmen!  (Breathe in deeply!)

Have you ever noticed how the German word for "breathe" i.e. "atmen" is practically the same for the Hindu/Sanskrit word for the "soul" ?    0:)

In the same way that you have the belief of metempsychosis, you can see the same thing here: your soul-breath is assimilated into the Nirvana of the general atmosphere, and here your words are assimilated into the Intervana, not to be confused with Vanna White, who might be another kind of Nirvana for guys over 50, and yet also similar, always present, always smiling in bliss, distinct yet indistinguishable, here and yet not here!    0:)

Soll ich atmen,
soll ich lauschen?
Soll ich schlürfen,
untertauchen?
Süß in Düften
mich verhauchen?
In dem wogenden Schwall,
in dem tönenden Schall,
in des Welt-Atems
wehendem All
ertrinken,
versinken
unbewußt
höchste Lust!  

So those departed are still here in the ether: perhaps we will breathe them in with hoechster Lust, maybe not!  Their time is now gone and become different!

For example...me!  I was gone for several weeks because of Internet problems, but now...the prodigal cometh!

[(poco) Sforzando]

You have a lot of antipathy against me my friend, I am really shocked by it, I honestly are.
I don't think that what you have given me, is friendly, by no means.

I'm neither particularly friendly towards you nor particularly hostile. You're just another person here stating opinions, most of which I ignore. You're not important enough to me for me to feel "antipathy." All I'm suggesting is that maybe you're not the saint you take yourself to be. And if what Ezodisy says is true, then maybe it's time for you to look at yourself rather than to make accusations against others.

[Hector]

Who's left?

When?

Was it something I said

I avoid any thread on this board that discusses German music (he says, prior to sneaking out and, secretly, buying a Sinopoli CD)