Classical Music Stereotypes

[Kullervo]

I've never heard any of those. Hardly anyone is educated enough with classical to even make such claims. Maybe by those few with a limited exposure.......

Well you've seen James's copy-and-pasted dismissals of Mozart for his "surface beauty & glitter & charm" right?

[Don]

  Are we snobs?  Well I can only speak for myself.  Personally I believe that when compared to classical music,  pop and rock music are trash.

marvin

I don't hold this view.  I've heard plenty of classical music that I consider inferior to the better rock pieces.  Bottom line is that making statements like Marvin's constitutes stereotyping. 

[greg]

Well you've seen James's copy-and-pasted dismissals of Mozart for his "surface beauty & glitter & charm" right?

I thought this thread was only about people who don't listen to classical (which is 99.9% of the general population). Otherwise, yeah, i get it......

[PSmith08]

Others:
Pierre Boulez conducts coldly and analytically.

Otto Klemperer's performances are architecturally solid; i.e., "granitic".

Herbert von Karajan's performances are sleek and over-polished.

All of these are, at given times - though not universally, correct.

[marvinbrown]

I don't hold this view.  I've heard plenty of classical music that I consider inferior to the better rock pieces.  Bottom line is that making statements like Marvin's constitutes stereotyping. 

  Sorry Don I was just venting.  I am involved with someone at the moment who loves 80's pop music.  If I hear one more Duran Duran or A-ha song I am going to jump off a high cliff! I can't get my girlfriend to even listen to J. Strauss's  waltzes  .

  marvin 

[MN Dave]

  Sorry Don I was just venting.  I am involved with someone at the moment who loves 80's pop music.  If I hear one more Duran Duran or A-ha song I am going to jump off a high cliff! I can't get my girlfriend to even listen to J. Strauss's  waltzes  .

  marvin 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUod3jGQt0U

[Don]

  Sorry Don I was just venting.  I am involved with someone at the moment who loves 80's pop music.  If I hear one more Duran Duran or A-ha song I am going to jump off a high cliff! I can't get my girlfriend to even listen to J. Strauss's  waltzes  .

  marvin 

I would also have a hard time putting up with a steady stream of pop music.

[PSmith08]

  Sorry Don I was just venting.  I am involved with someone at the moment who loves 80's pop music.  If I hear one more Duran Duran or A-ha song I am going to jump off a high cliff! I can't get my girlfriend to even listen to J. Strauss's  waltzes  .

  marvin 

That's why you gradually nudge your S.O.'s listening tastes toward more serious pop and rock. There's a big difference between A-Ha's Hunting High and Low and Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska. Once she has a taste for more serious music, you can throw a little Steely Dan into the mix. Then, well, the jump to classical doesn't seem so far, does it?

Really, she doesn't have to like classical, but there's pop and then there's serious popular music.

[marvinbrown]

That's why you gradually nudge your S.O.'s listening tastes toward more serious pop and rock. There's a big difference between A-Ha's Hunting High and Low and Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska. Once she has a taste for more serious music, you can throw a little Steely Dan into the mix. Then, well, the jump to classical doesn't seem so far, does it?

Really, she doesn't have to like classical, but there's pop and then there's serious popular music.

  Thanks for the tip  !

  marvin

[PSmith08]

  Thanks for the tip  !

  marvin

Don't mention it. Steely Dan is one of the "gateway" artists. Any of the Prog Rock or fusion types will do.

It's how I got into classical. It works.

[greg]

  Sorry Don I was just venting.  I am involved with someone at the moment who loves 80's pop music.  If I hear one more Duran Duran or A-ha song I am going to jump off a high cliff! I can't get my girlfriend to even listen to J. Strauss's  waltzes  .

  marvin 

This post is so funny and sad, in so many ways......

[eyeresist]

I've heard plenty of classical music that I consider inferior to the better rock pieces.

I agree. We often forget that posterity has weeded out much of the dross of classical music.

A lot of classical music fans are snobs. Classical music attracts them, in the same way that heavy metal attracts antisocial drunks. But it's not a universally applicable archetype!

[Chrone]

It all sounds like Mozart.

I used to work with someone who thought all classical music sounded like the Schindler's List score.

[12tone.]

'Classical music is too slow'
'Classical music isn't loud enough'
'Classical music puts me to sleep'
'Classical music has too many notes in it'

[Kullervo]

I used to work with someone who thought all classical music sounded like the Schindler's List score.

Don't they have special camps for those people?

Fixed an extra word.

[eyeresist]

I tried to educate my boss/coworker by giving her a sort of "instant classical collection" one Xmas. But the other day she said that classical music is what she listens to to relax. I shoulda stuck some Shostakovich in there!

[ChamberNut]

When playing some classical music one day, this from my fiancee (who doesn't mind classical, but listens more to classic rock, folk and hip/hop):

"Can we change it to something else.  Sorry, I'm just not in the mood for it right now.  I need to listen to something with rhythm and a beat."   

[MN Dave]

When playing some classical music one day, this from my fiancee (who doesn't mind classical, but listens more to classic rock, folk and hip/hop):

"Can we change it to something else.  Sorry, I'm just not in the mood for it right now.  I need to listen to something with rhythm and a beat."   

Most people need DRUMS. 

[marvinbrown]

'Classical music has too many notes in it'

  You've been watching Amadeus again haven't you  ??

  marvin

[PSmith08]

Most people need DRUMS. 

Give them Nielsen's 4th or Mahler's 7th. That should take care of that.