short masterpieces

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M forever

I know you want to show off that you know a little bit about Eastern European culture, but it wouldn't hurt if you also gave the English title for the benefit of our internationally diverse readers here:

"The Iron Foundry"

Quote from: opus67 on August 09, 2008, 07:24:38 AM
Rachmaninoff
Op.3 No.2 - Prelude in C sharp minor

Love it!

O.T.: Firefox's spell-checker informs me that Rachmaninoff is incorrectly spelt, and as a suggestion offers me Rachmaninov. :D Mozilla Forever!



sound67

Quote from: M forever on August 09, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
I know you want to show off that you know a little bit about Eastern European culture, but it wouldn't hurt if you also gave the English title for the benefit of our internationally diverse readers

I know you like to suck up to everyone, but it doesn't hurt to remind people every once in a while that English is not the only language. Any intelligent reader can figure out the English title and the corresponding recordings for himself. Also, the translation is imprecise.
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

Philoctetes

The Piano Works of Erik Satie, all of them.

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: sound67 on August 11, 2008, 04:40:32 AM
I know you like to suck up to everyone, but it doesn't hurt to remind people every once in a while that English is not the only language. Any intelligent reader can figure out the English title and the corresponding recordings for himself. Also, the translation is imprecise.
Hmmm. you can call the Blue Dragon lots of names, but "sucking up" is probably not what I associate with him.

vandermolen

Quote from: Tsaraslondon on June 27, 2008, 01:14:25 AM
Elgar's Sospiri packs an incredible emotional punch at about 5 minutes.



Yes, I agree.

Five Variants on Dives and Lazarus: Vaughan Williams

Nadir: Sainton

Elegy to Koussevitsy: Howard Hanson
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

M forever

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on August 11, 2008, 08:19:52 AM
Hmmm. you can call the Blue Dragon lots of names, but "sucking up" is probably not what I associate with him.

You are right (at least this one time  ;) ). That contribution didn't make sense at all. But please don't hold that against "sound 67". He may not understand what the English expression "to suck up to someone" actually means. He is very representative of a type of German pseudo-intellectual commonly referred to as "halbgebildet" (which roughly means "half-educated"). One typical mode of behavior for that type of pseudo-intellectual is that he always assumes a non-majority point of view to be able to hint at a reservoir of knowledge not shared by the majority. Hence his posting. He wanted people to ask "what does that mean", so that he could educate them. Note that in his reply, he did the same thing again ("also, the translation is imprecise"). Instead of simply saying what he thinks would be a better translation.
BTW, I never was the "Blue Dragon". Nor am I "the hungry shark" now. The Blue Dragon is/was just one of many symbolic expressions for the elusive quality that can only inadequately be described in words as "Mness". It is a timeless state of being. Hence "M forever".

Anyway, some time ago, M promised to post Svetlanov's recording of Rimsky-Korsakov's "Dubinushka" (I'll leave it up to "sound 67" to explain what that means, so he can have the stage for a brief moment). M finally found the CD.

So here it is:

Svetlanov conducts Rimsky-Korsakov's "Dubinushka".

A great recording of a great small piece, brought to you by your friend M in awesome lossless flac quality.


sound67

#66
Quote from: M forever on August 11, 2008, 09:44:59 PMOne typical mode of behavior for that type of pseudo-intellectual is that he always assumes a non-majority point of view ...
(rest of rhubarb cut)

Blah, blah. It's not my fault you don't have an inquisitive mind. Mine draws me to many niches of the repertoire worth exploring, and THAT I gladly pass on to others. Too bad your own taste appears to be all-mainstream. But since you're a lousy judge of character, too, one shouldn't be surprised.

Why should I spell everything out so that even you understand it? 

Anyway, the Mossolov piece can be easily found without the use of translation, e.g. here:
http://www.webrarian.co.uk/music/mp3s.html

Thomas

"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

greg

Quote from: M forever on August 11, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
The Blue Dragon is/was just one of many symbolic expressions for the elusive quality that can only inadequately be described in words as "Mness". It is a timeless state of being. Hence "M forever".
Ok, what exactly is "Mness?"
I find this a bit corny yet cool at the same time..... i have a similar nickname that my friend calls me, "King G" and i feel the same way about that. If we're doing nicknames, i like them to be less serious, like one person could be DookieHead, another could be The Buggerman, another could be Reterd, whatever... i like silly nicknames.

karlhenning


greg

Quote from: karlhenning on August 12, 2008, 09:39:18 AM
You don't ssssaaayy?
I know, i bet no one could've guessed, so i just had to let that all out, KKKKAAARRL....

sound67

Sorry if I'm taking the liberty to return to the topic of the thread.

Another great technology-inspired short masterpiece. Arthur Honegger, Pacific 231!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5rX0EjPqig

Thomas
"Vivaldi didn't compose 500 concertos. He composed the same concerto 500 times" - Igor Stravinsky

"Mozart is a menace to musical progress, a relic of rituals that were losing relevance in his own time and are meaningless to ours." - Norman Lebrecht

karlhenning

Quote from: sound67 on August 12, 2008, 02:17:43 PM
Sorry if I'm taking the liberty to return to the topic of the thread.

No apology needed, Thos!

Webern, Symphony, Opus 21

Sibelius, Luonnotar, Opus 70

Prokofiev, The Ugly Duckling, Opus 18

Prokofiev, Toccata, Opus 11


Kullervo

Quote from: karlhenning on August 12, 2008, 04:52:54 PM
Sibelius, Luonnotar, Opus 70

I second this and add The Oceanides — probably my favorite non-symphonic piece of music.

M forever

Quote from: M forever on August 11, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
One typical mode of behavior for that type of pseudo-intellectual is that he always assumes a non-majority point of view to be able to hint at a reservoir of knowledge not shared by the majority.

Quote from: sound67 on August 12, 2008, 06:19:18 AM
Too bad your own taste appears to be all-mainstream.

Ah yes, thank you for this graphic illustration of what I just said. I think we all get the picture. You may sit down now.


Quote from: sound67 on August 12, 2008, 02:17:43 PM
Another great technology-inspired short masterpiece. Arthur Honegger, Pacific 231!

Oh, that's so mainstream!! Our music teacher played that for us in 10th grade. I don't understand why someone with a taste as exclusive and refined as yours would even consider listening to that.
Anyway, funny, I organized some CDs today and stumbled across one of only two or three recordings I have of that piece. As you all know, M likes to share, so here is Honegger's "Pacific 231" with Semyon Bychkov conducting the Orchestre de Paris:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6x5q8p

Sarastro

Quote from: Henk on June 27, 2008, 01:07:38 AM
List masterpieces that are not symphonies.

What about symphony movements?
Many people know the first eight bars from the first movement of Mozart's fortieth and think this is the whole thing. Indeed, it is short. And a masterpiece, too! :D

The same about opera, there are so many arias, duets, trios, ensembles - masterpieces! 8)

vandermolen

Quote from: Corey on August 12, 2008, 07:23:11 PM
I second this and add The Oceanides — probably my favorite non-symphonic piece of music.

Yes, I agree; a great work.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Ten thumbs

Whilst appreciating the smaller masterpieces of the famous, this is an area where the lesser composers can sometimes hold their own. For instance Clara Schumann's Romance Op. 21.1 is as fine a piece as anything of this size written by her husband. Playing it required a great deal of emotional stamina and the devastating despair of the ending takes some matching.
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

techniquest

Ravel: La Valse
Rimsky Korsakov: Russian Easter Overture
Hovhaness: Fra Angelico
Shchedrin: Concerto for Orchestra No.1 "Merrie Ditties"
Copland: El Salon Mexico
Rachmaninov: C# minor prelude
Debussy: Claire de Lune
de Falla: Ritual Fire Dance

That'll do for now...

Xenophanes

I'll try not to repeat much of what others have mentioned.

There are any number of songs by Schubert and many others. I like some of the Arie Antiche.  Caldara's Come raggio di sol is quite simple but also profound.

Bach's Brandenburg Concertos

Massenet's Le Cid ballet suite

Rachmaninov's Isle of the Dead

Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies, also symphonic poems

Brahms' Hungarian Dances

Dvorak's Slavonic Dances

All sort of overtures by Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Berlioz, Rossini, Weber, Mendelssohn (Hebrides esp.), Auber, Suppe, Brahms, Dvorak, Wagner, and less well known figures such as J. M. Kraus (Olympie), Berwald, Glinka, and Lilburn.

Sibelius' Karelia Suite, Swan of Tuonela

Mayuzumi's Samsara and Essay for String Orchestra

Kreisler's violin pieces