Joly Braga Santos

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Dundonnell

Quote from: vandermolen on December 10, 2008, 12:55:08 AM
In point of fact the Dutch BSEs only drink bottled custard, delivered by the milkman. The Scottish one drinks whisky (of course) but I have a sophisticated taste for vintage wines (Co-Op Special Reserve 2008). Now, where's that Braga Santos CD?

I don't drink whisky, sob, sob :( I only drink "the finest wines available to humanity"(to quote Withnail)

jowcol

 I'm coming in late, but one of the greatest things about this forum was getting turned onto JBS!  The first four symphonies are fantastic! I wouldn't know where to begin between the colorful orchestration, rhythmic vitality, outstanding melodies and structure.  It was sort of like finding out the Moeran wrote four more symphonies!  These rank with Orthel's third as my best discoveries of the year-- in any genre.

"If it sounds good, it is good."
Duke Ellington

Dundonnell

I am very delighted to read how much you enjoy Braga Santos ;D I was playing the slow movement of No.2 to a non-classical friend of mine last night. He was absolutely amazed to hear that BS was only 23 years old when he wrote that music. What a gift to write such a melody so young :)

And Orthel too! Excellent :)

jowcol

Just a quick note on the lovely second movement of the 4th.  The descending theme reminds me a lot of the Brazillian Jazz guitarist's Canto de Ossanha.  (Which the acoustic Guitarist John Fahey adapted as "Let Go" on his album of the same name.)  I wonder if there is some sort of Portuguese folk tune or something both were drawing from.  Anyone, that movement is sublime.
"If it sounds good, it is good."
Duke Ellington

vandermolen

Quote from: Christo on December 10, 2008, 05:02:27 AM
By sheer coincidence, Co-Op Special Reserve is my favourite, too. I'm looking forward to its 2009 embottlement, a vintage year as never before! And yes: we hve them as a six-pack from the milkman. Who's offering them as 'Grande Crue Délire'.  :)

Well, as we are connoisseurs of fine music it is hardly surprising that we also have a sophisticated taste for fine wines too  ;D
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

pjme

Quote from: Christo on December 10, 2008, 05:02:27 AM
By sheer coincidence, Co-Op Special Reserve is my favourite, too. I'm looking forward to its 2009 embottlement, a vintage year as never before! And yes: we hve them as a six-pack from the milkman. Who's offering them as 'Grande Crue Délire'.  :)

Christo, I'm a bit confused....Une crue/la crue = hoge waterstand / water level       les crus ( = le cru) de Bourgogne,Alsace....: Cru is a French wine term which means "growth place". More specifically, cru is often used to indicate a specifically named growth place

Grand cru Délire : OK  Grande crue Délire : ????or pun?

Peter

Christo

Quote from: pjme on December 12, 2008, 03:54:15 AM
... or pun?

;) ;) 8)


(My French is worse than yours, but not that bad)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

pjme

 :)  0:)

C'est pas grave. My French is quite rusty...

Tapio Dmitriyevich

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Quote from: jowcol on December 11, 2008, 04:55:07 PMAnyone, that movement is sublime.
Yeah, it stands like a rock in that symphony, epic and monumental.

Dundonnell

I have not yet had time to listen to the new Naxos version of the Freitas Branco 2nd Symphony conducted by Alvaro Cassuto but I have just listened to the other two works on this disc and am staggered at how good they are!

There must be something about the air in Portugal to produce such precocious composers as Freitas Branco and Braga Santos! The Fantasy 'After a reading of Guerra Junqueiro' was written when Freitas Branco was only 19 but is a resplendent, gloriously Straussian piece with magnificent writing for the brass and gorgeous, grandiose climaxes. 'Artificial Paradises' was written only a year later(in 1910) but is an equally rich, impressionist work of quite astonishing maturity.

I was somewhat underwhelmed by the Freitas Branco 2nd Symphony in the recently issued Atma version but will listen to it again in this new Cassuto version. On the basis however of these two wonderful short tone poems it is clear that the composer did have a prodigeous talent :)

Dundonnell

I have re-read Christo's post (on page 12) of this thread about the other tone poems by Freitas Branco and can't wait to hear them-hopefully coupled by Naxos with Symphonies 3 and 4 :)

vandermolen

How weird! I was reading this famous old thread earlier this evening and here it is back again  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Dundonnell

Quote from: vandermolen on January 07, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
How weird! I was reading this famous old thread earlier this evening and here it is back again  :)

Can't keep a good thread down ;D ;D

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Dundonnell on January 07, 2009, 02:50:31 PM
Can't keep a good thread down ;D ;D

BSEs are always on duty keeping this thread alive...  ;)
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

karlhenning


Dundonnell

#275
I am listening again to Freitas Branco's 'After a reading of Guerra Junqueiro". Simply wonderful!! Absolutely glorious music :) Ok...it is heavily influenced by the Richard Strauss of Don Juan and Till Eulenspiegel(which might put Jeffrey off?) but what swaggering orchestral mastery for a 19 year old :)

Worth buying the cd for this alone! BSEs and others should love it  ;D ;D

And..if you are a Debussyian or Delian you will love 'Artificial Paradises' too. I am neither really but it IS an extremely fine piece of lush, impressionist tone painting. There is a marvellous passage in the work too which reminds me of the Khachaturian of 'Spartacus' except that this was written in 1910!

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Dundonnell on January 08, 2009, 06:03:10 AM
I am listening again to Freitas Branco's 'After a reading of Guerra Junqueiro". Simply wonderful!! Absolutely glorious music :) Ok...it is heavily influenced by the Richard Strauss of Don Juan and Till Eulenspiegel(which might put Jeffrey off?) but what swaggering orchestral mastery for a 19 year old :)

Worth buying the cd for this alone! BSEs and others should love it  ;D ;D

And..if you are a Debussyian or Delian you will love 'Artificial Paradises' too. I am neither really but it IS an extremely fine piece of lush, impressionist tone painting. There is a marvellous passage in the work too which reminds me of the Khachaturian of 'Spartacus' except that this was written in 1910!


[makes mental note]
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

vandermolen

Quote from: Dundonnell on January 08, 2009, 06:03:10 AM
I am listening again to Freitas Branco's 'After a reading of Guerra Junqueiro". Simply wonderful!! Absolutely glorious music :) Ok...it is heavily influenced by the Richard Strauss of Don Juan and Till Eulenspiegel(which might put Jeffrey off?) but what swaggering orchestral mastery for a 19 year old :)

Worth buying the cd for this alone! BSEs and others should love it  ;D ;D

And..if you are a Debussyian or Delian you will love 'Artificial Paradises' too. I am neither really but it IS an extremely fine piece of lush, impressionist tone painting. There is a marvellous passage in the work too which reminds me of the Khachaturian of 'Spartacus' except that this was written in 1910!

Right, I have just ordered this CD and will be holding you personally responsible if it sounds like 'Ein Heldenleben'  ;D
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

karlhenning

Quote from: vandermolen on January 08, 2009, 06:58:48 AM
Right, I have just ordered this CD and will be holding you personally responsible if it sounds like 'Ein Heldenleben'  ;D


vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).