Shostakovich's 4th Symphony

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J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Wurstwasser on December 19, 2008, 11:55:48 AM
Jez: The Glockenspiel player plays wrong (afaik!) at 23:55 in the last mvmt., and waaaaaahttt! The conclusion in this recording goes like: Don dong "COUGHHHHH!" ding ding... (after 24.00) This guy has stained the mankinds holyest moment!

Sorry about the Glockenspiel (if you're right). And yes, the Grote Zaal (Great Hall) of the Concertgebouw can sound like a sanatorium sometimes.

Quote from: bhodges on December 19, 2008, 12:24:57 PM
PS, downloading the Kondrashin now that Jezetha posted.  I'd intended to a long time ago and forgot.   :-[ 

Thanks so much!  0:)

--Bruce

I'm amazed the link is still working. I uploaded the work to another Rapidshare account, which I let expire in favour of another...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

bhodges

Quote from: vandermolen on December 19, 2008, 12:50:55 PM
I think that No 11 is one of those that has to be seen live. I was lucky, many years ago, to hear John Pritchard give a great performance at the Festival Hall in London with the BBC SO.  I was sitting right behind the percussion in the choir seats. It was a very exciting experience. I have the performance on CD as it was briefly available on the defunct label BBC Radio Classics. Maybe it will reemerge one day.

Oh sorry, I remember now that we discussed this before (I think), since I also heard Pritchard do it here in NYC, probably around the same time, and I bought that recording as well!  IIRC the cover art is very beautiful, a drawing of mountainous peaks.

PS, just searched The New York Times and found the review--yikes, from 1987!  Seems like yesterday.

--Bruce

vandermolen

Quote from: bhodges on December 19, 2008, 01:02:54 PM
Oh sorry, I remember now that we discussed this before (I think), since I also heard Pritchard do it here in NYC, probably around the same time, and I bought that recording as well!  IIRC the cover art is very beautiful, a drawing of mountainous peaks.

PS, just searched The New York Times and found the review--yikes, from 1987!  Seems like yesterday.

--Bruce
Bruce,

I just checked the BBC Radio Classics CD. The concert was on 12th April 1985. I especially remember the climax of the last movement where the percussionist virtually threw himself into the gong!

Jeffrey
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

karlhenning

Quote from: vandermolen on December 19, 2008, 01:24:38 PM
I especially remember the climax of the last movement where the percussionist virtually threw himself into the gong!

Courage is going from gong to gong without losing enthusiasm, Jeffrey  8)

vandermolen

Quote from: karlhenning on December 19, 2008, 01:30:09 PM
Courage is going from gong to gong without losing enthusiasm, Jeffrey  8)

Excellent Karl made me laugh  ;D

Jeffrey
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

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This is definitely my favourite cover art for Shostakovich's 4th Symphony. A wonderfully atmospheric photograph, full of foreboding (that is Stalin's image in the background).

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

bhodges

Quote from: vandermolen on December 19, 2008, 01:24:38 PM
Bruce,

I just checked the BBC Radio Classics CD. The concert was on 12th April 1985. I especially remember the climax of the last movement where the percussionist virtually threw himself into the gong!

Jeffrey

Yes, I recall that, too, now that you mention!  Also Pritchard's face turning very red with all the effort.  And then...my shock, when he died in 1989.  That was my sole experience hearing him conduct, either live or recorded.  :'(

--Bruce

bhodges

Quote from: vandermolen on December 19, 2008, 01:35:52 PM
This is definitely my favourite cover art for Shostakovich's 4th Symphony. A wonderfully atmospheric photograph, full of foreboding (that is Stalin's image in the background).



That *is* a very cool photo, Jeffrey.  How does the performance rank among all the others you have?  (I don't have many Herbig recordings--not for any particular reason.)

--Bruce

vandermolen

Quote from: bhodges on December 19, 2008, 01:37:03 PM
Yes, I recall that, too, now that you mention!  Also Pritchard's face turning very red with all the effort.  And then...my shock, when he died in 1989.  That was my sole experience hearing him conduct, either live or recorded.  :'(

--Bruce

Me too Bruce. I don't think I saw him conduct again, although possibly at the BBC studios in Maida Vale. V sad.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: bhodges on December 19, 2008, 01:39:00 PM
That *is* a very cool photo, Jeffrey.  How does the performance rank among all the others you have?  (I don't have many Herbig recordings--not for any particular reason.)

--Bruce

It is a very good performance (I have it on the CD player at the moment). I will report back when I have got to the end!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: bhodges on December 19, 2008, 01:39:00 PM
That *is* a very cool photo, Jeffrey.  How does the performance rank among all the others you have?  (I don't have many Herbig recordings--not for any particular reason.)

--Bruce

Herbig's performance with the Saarbruken Radio SO is beautifully played and recorded (live). Not as manic or bleak as some but totally convincing nonetheless.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sef

Has anyone heard this year's Haitink CSO version on their own label that's up for a Grammy (I believe)? Embarrassed to say that I only heard it live, but have enough versions not to want to buy another. Critique anyone?
"Do you think that I could have composed what I have composed, do you think that one can write a single note with life in it if one sits there and pities oneself?"

drogulus


     I can't say I'm happy with the cover for the Haitink cycle:

     

     The glasses are all right but red?

     Am I reading too much into it? (a horrible derisive yesss sounds from all directions! :'()

   
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ezodisy

Quote from: G$ on December 20, 2008, 04:18:14 PM


lol!



Quote from: drogulus on December 20, 2008, 04:10:21 PM
     I can't say I'm happy with the cover for the Haitink cycle:

     The glasses are all right but red?

     Am I reading too much into it? (a horrible derisive yesss sounds from all directions! :'()


I'm not happy with it either, because no way does that mild mannered, west-is-best interpretation deserve anything like Russian red.

greg

Quote from: ezodisy on December 20, 2008, 04:29:04 PM
lol!



I'm not happy with it either, because no way does that mild mannered, west-is-best interpretation deserve anything like Russian red.
I think I just found my new desktop picture.   0:) 8)

ezodisy


greg

Quote from: ezodisy on December 20, 2008, 04:31:01 PM
you should use this one instead


lol, i'll save that.  The other one is much easier on the eyes, though....