complete editions- Box sets

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Drasko

#60
Quote from: Bulldog on November 22, 2008, 12:21:13 PM
That's amusing about the Schiff preference; I find him to be a Brendel clone in this repertoire.

Reviewer was very fond of Brendel as well, can't remember exactly why he opted for Schiff over him as his final modern piano choice.

Que

And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck!  :o



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Q

Sorin Eushayson

#62
Quote from: Que on January 27, 2009, 04:30:53 AM
And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck!  :o
The Hanover Band and L'Archibudelli caught my eye in the item description... I wonder which pieces they're performing on the set...

greg

Quote from: Que on January 27, 2009, 04:30:53 AM
And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck!  :o



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Q
Nice!  :D
I can't even say I like (or dislike) Mendelssohn, but my mouth is already watering.

Lilas Pastia

This is definitely the flavour of the month - everybody (myself included) falls for those Big Boxes. The maths are easy to figure: if 2/3 of the lot is above average, how can you resist something that sells for 1/10 the price of its individual components ?

The Karajan Symphony Edition box is one such example. Individual sets (like the Bruckner symphonies) sell for about 40-100$. The whole 38 disc box sells for 70-80$ - and you get Haydn, Beethoven, Mozart, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky thrown in for good measure. I wish they had gone one step further and included their Sibelius (4-7 plus tone poeams and Mahler as well (4-6 and 9, plus DLVDE). Maybe there should be another Karajan Symphony Edition made up of the leftovers !  :D. Say, Schubert, Berlioz, Dvorak, Mahler, Shostakowich, Prokofiev, Sibelius, Nielsen, Saint-Saens, Honegger - what else am I missing ?

Wanderer

#65
Quote from: Que on January 27, 2009, 04:30:53 AM
And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck!  :o



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Q

Very interesting! At first glance I thought it was a repackaging of a similar Mendelssohn boxset issued by Brilliant some time ago. Is there a page where one can see who plays what?

Edit: Found one!

Tracklisting
CD 1-3
Streichersinfonien Nr. 1-12, Sinfoniesatz c-Moll (Streichersinfonie Nr. 13) (Roy Goodman, The Hanover Band)
CD 4-6
Sinfonien Nr. 1-5 (Kurt Masur, Celestina Casapietra, Adele Stolte, Peter Schreier, Rundfunkchor Leipzig, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig)
CD 7
Ouvertüren op. 10, 26, 27, 95, 74 und 101 (Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker) und ,,Athalia" – Kriegsmarsch der Priester (Leonard Bernstein, New York Philharmonic)
CD 8
Violinkonzert op. 64 (Isaac Stern, Eugene Ormandy, The Philadelphia Orchestra) und Violinkonzert d-Moll (Kyoko Takezawa, Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker)
CD 9
Die 2 Konzerte für 2 Klaviere (Gold & Fizdale, Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy)
CD 10
Klavierkonzerte Nr. 1-2 (Murray Perahia, Academy of St. Martin in the Fields, Neville Marriner), ,,Capriccio brillant" op. 22 und ,,Rondo brillant" op. 29 (Andrei Pisarev, Russian Philharmonic Orchestra, Samuel Friedmann)
CD 11
,,Ein Sommernachtstraum" (Bühnenmusik) (Erich Leinsdorf, Boston Symphony Orchestra and Chorus, Arlene Saunders, Helen Vanni, Inga Swenson)
CD 12-13
,,Paulus" op. 36 (Joshard Daus, Bach-Ensemble der EuropaChorAkademie, SWR Symphony Orchestra, Hellen Kwon, Elzbieta Ardam, Hans Peter Blochwitz, Peter Lika)
CD 14-15
,,Elias" op. 70 (Herbert Blomstedt, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, Gewandhauskammerchor, Gewandhauschor, Christian Gerhaher, Sibylla Rubens, Nathalie Stutzmann, James Taylor uva.)
CD 16
,,Die erste Walpurgisnacht" op. 60 (Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker, Chor der Bamberger Symphoniker, Jadwiga Rappe, Deon van der Walt) und ,,Leise zieht durch mein Gemüth" – 12 Lieder von Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy für hohe Stimme und Orchester in der Bearbeitung von Siegfried Matthus (Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker, Deon van der Walt)
CD 17
,,Wie der Hirsch schreit" – Psalm 42 (Andreas Hantke, Münchner Oratorienchor, RSO Pilsen), Lieder op. 59 Nr. 1-6 (Claus Bantzer, Harvestehuder Kammerchor) und ,,Hear my prayer" (O for the wings of a dove) (Richard Marlow, The Choir of Trinity College, Cambridge)
CD 18
Oktett op. 20 (Ross Pople, London Festival Orchestra Ensemble), Sonate für Klarinette und Klavier Es-Dur (Charles Neidich, Robert Levin), ,,Auf Flügeln des Gesanges", Lied op. 34, Nr. 2 (Jascha Heifetz, Emanuel Bay), Lied ohne Worte op. 19, Nr. 6 und ,,Canzonetta" (aus dem Streichquartett op. 72) (Julian Bream)
CD 19
Streichquintette Nr. 1-2. op. 18 und 87 (L'Archibudelli)
CD 20-22
Sämtliche Streichquartette (Henschel Quartett)
CD 23
Klaviertrios Nr. 1-2, op. 49 und 66 (Isaac Stern, Leonard Rose, Eugene Istomin)
CD 24
Werke für Violoncello und Klavier (Steven Isserlis, Melvyn Tan)
CD 25
Klaviermusik (Murray Perahia und Matthias Kirschnereit)
CD 26
,,Lieder ohne Worte" und andere Klavierstücke (Matthias Kirschnereit, Glenn Gould, Alicia de Larrocha, Rudolf Serkin und Vladimir Horowitz) und Musik für Klavier zu 4 Händen (Tal & Groethuysen)
CD 27-29
Sämtliche Orgelwerke (Stefan Johannes Bleicher)
CD 30
Lieder und Duette (Barbara Bonney, Angelika Kirchschlager und Malcolm Martineau – Paul Armin und Peter Edelmann und Phillip Moll – Judith Raskin und George Schick – Christoph Prégardien und Andreas Staier)

Brian

Nota Bene: That Mendelssohn box is NOT "complete"; there would otherwise be 5+ discs of piano music and a flute concerto, among other things. (Or maybe it was a flute, violin and piano concerto. I forget.)

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Brian on January 28, 2009, 04:43:39 PM
Nota Bene: That Mendelssohn box is NOT "complete"; there would otherwise be 5+ discs of piano music and a flute concerto, among other things. (Or maybe it was a flute, violin and piano concerto. I forget.)
It is not suppose to be complete. The title is "Complete Masterpieces" much like the 60 cd Beethoven "Complete Masterpieces" box from SONY. Obviously the pieces you mentioned are not masterpieces according to SONY.

Lilas Pastia

And yet there are readily available Perahia recordings of Songs Without Words, and a few important solo works (Variations sérieuses, sonata)... ::)

BTW I've mentioned the String symphonies by Goodman some time ago. Excellent recordings (much to my surprise).

eyeresist

Quote from: Lilas Pastia on January 27, 2009, 04:20:48 PM
The Karajan Symphony Edition box is one such example. Individual sets (like the Bruckner symphonies) sell for about 40-100$. The whole 38 disc box sells for 70-80$ - and you get Haydn, Beethoven, Mozart, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky thrown in for good measure. I wish they had gone one step further and included their Sibelius (4-7 plus tone poeams and Mahler as well (4-6 and 9, plus DLVDE). Maybe there should be another Karajan Symphony Edition made up of the leftovers !  :D. Say, Schubert, Berlioz, Dvorak, Mahler, Shostakowich, Prokofiev, Sibelius, Nielsen, Saint-Saens, Honegger - what else am I missing ?
You are right that the Symphony Edition is far complete - your "alternative edition" sounds much more attractive to me!

George


Celibidache - The Complete EMI edition




Bartók: Concerto for Orchestra, Sz.116

Beethoven:

Symphony No. 2 in D major, Op. 36

Symphony No. 4 in B flat major, Op. 60

Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica'

Symphony No. 4 in B flat major, Op. 60

Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67

Symphony No. 6 in F major, Op. 68 'Pastoral'

Leonore Overture No. 3, Op. 72b

Symphony No. 7 in A major, Op. 92

Symphony No. 8 in F major, Op. 93

Symphony No. 9 in D minor, Op. 125 'Choral'


Brahms:

Ein Deutsches Requiem, Op. 45

Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 68

Symphony No. 2 in D major, Op. 73

Symphony No. 3 in F major, Op. 90

Symphony No. 4 in E minor, Op. 98

Variations on a theme by Haydn, Op. 56a 'St Anthony Variations'


Bruckner:

Symphony No. 3 in D minor 'Wagner Symphony'

Symphony No. 4 in Eb Major 'Romantic'

Symphony No. 5 in B flat major

Symphony No. 6 in A major

Symphony No. 7 in E Major

Symphony No. 8 in C minor

Symphony No. 9 in D Minor

including rehearsal footage

Te Deum in C Major

Mass No. 3 in F minor


Debussy

La Mer

Images pour orchestre


Haydn:

Symphony No. 103 in E flat major 'Drum Roll'

Symphony No. 104 in D major 'London'

Symphony No. 92 in G major 'Oxford'


Mozart: Symphony No. 40 in G minor, K550

Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition

Ravel: Boléro

Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C major, D944 'The Great'

Schumann:

Symphony No. 2 in C major, Op. 61

Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, Op. 97 'Rhenish'

Symphony No. 4 in D minor, Op. 120


Tchaikovsky:

Symphony No. 5 in E minor, Op. 64

Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Op. 74 'Pathétique'


Wagner:

Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg - Overture

Siegfried Idyll

Siegfried's Funeral March from Götterdämmerung

Tannhäuser - Overture


Helen Donath, Doris Soffel, Siegfried Jerusalem, Peter Lika, Arleen Augér, Margaret Price, Thomas Hölle

Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache

Live recordings made between 1979 and 1996

EMI 33cds 5677322


Now $132.95 at MDT
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//5677322.htm

Renfield

Mind you, though, George: that is still half (or around 2/3) the total of Celi recordings on EMI.

There's also another box set, despite the "complete" claim. :)

George

Quote from: Renfield on January 28, 2009, 06:11:53 PM
Mind you, though, George: that is still half (or around 2/3) the total of Celi recordings on EMI. Despite the "complete" claim, there's also another box set. :)

Do you have a link to it?

I wonder why they left them off?  ???

George

Never mind, think I found it:



BACH: Mass in B minor (2CDs)

Barbara Bonney, Ruxandra Donose-Danila, Cornelia Wulkopf, Peter Schreier, Yaron Windmüller, Anton Scharinger

Bach-Chor des Johannes Gutenberg Universität Mainz

5578442



MOZART: Requiem

Caroline Petrig, Christel Borchers, Peter Straka, Mathias Hölle

Philharmonischer Chor München

5578472

                                   

VERDI: Requiem (2CDs)

Elena Filipova, Reinhild Runkel, Peter Dvorsky, Kurt Rydl

Philharmonischer Chor München

5578482



FAURÉ: Requiem

Margaret Price, Alan Titus

Philharmonischer Chor München

STRAVINSKY: Symphony of Psalms

Philharmonischer Chor München

5578512



TCHAIKOVSKY: Symphony No. 4 in F minor (2CDs)

Nutcracker Ballet - Suite

5578522                                   

                                     

RIMSKY-KORSAKOV: Scheherazade

5578532



PROKOFIEV: Symphony No. 1 in D, Op. 25 "Classical", Symphony No. 5 in B flat, Op. 100

5578542           

           

SHOSTAKOVICH: Symphony No. 1 in F minor, Op. 10, Symphony No. 9 in E flat, Op. 70

BARBER: Adagio for Strings

5578552



MILHAUD: Concerto for Marimba, Vibraphone and Orchestra, Op. 278

Peter Sadlo

Suite française, Op. 248

ROUSSEL: Petite Suite, Op. 39, Suite in F, Op. 33

5578562

                                   

ITALIAN OPERA OVERTURES

ROSSINI: Guillaume Tell; La scala di seta, Semiramide; Le gazza ladra

VERDI: La forza del destino

MOZART: Don Giovanni

5578572



BERLIOZ: Le Carnaval romain, Op. 9

MENDELSSOHN: Midsummer Night's Dream, Op. 21

The Hebrides (Fingal's Cave), Op. 26

SCHUBERT: Rosamunde, D. 797

SMETANA: Vltava (Má Vlást),

STRAUSS, J. II: Die Fledermaus

5578582



BONUS CD NOT AVAILABLE SEPARATELY – ONLY AS PART OF BOX SET

WAGNER: Tristan und Isolde – Prelude to Act 1 and Liebestod

Parsifal – Karfreitagsmusik

WEBER: Oberon - Overture



EMI 15cds 5578612

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//5578612.htm

Renfield

#74
Yes, that's the one. :)

And a shame, too, as I might've been tempted to buy a big (big) set with everything, but as it is, I can either buy a set with many interesting choral and "peripheral" (for my listening) works but miss out on the Tchaikovsky, the Beethoven and Schumann recordings I don't have, etc....

Or I buy a still-not-cheap box set that duplicates a lot of discs I have, and then have to spend even more for another one. ::)


Psychologically speaking, I am not encouraged, EMI!

George

I hear ya, Renfield. The 33CD set is a damn good bargain at $132.95. The second one, the 15CD set for $125.76 is not nearly as nice of a bargain.  :-\

Wanderer

So, if I understand EMI's concept (if any) correctly, the big 33-disc set comprises volumes 1-3 of their Celibidache edition whereas the other 15-disc set is the separately available volume 4?

George

Quote from: George on January 28, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
I hear ya, Renfield. The 33CD set is a damn good bargain at $132.95.

Just found out the shipping is $35! This seems high.  :-\

Renfield

Quote from: Wanderer on January 29, 2009, 01:10:49 AM
So, if I understand EMI's concept (if any) correctly, the big 33-disc set comprises volumes 1-3 of their Celibidache edition whereas the other 15-disc set is the separately available volume 4?

Presumably. That, or they figured they might issue more recordings than originally intended, and had already planned the 33-disc box set by that moment.

Maciek

Quote from: George on January 29, 2009, 04:09:35 PM
Just found out the shipping is $35! This seems high.  :-\

Exorbitant shipping is one of the reasons I've never been able to take advantage of an MDT "sale". In the case of box sets the shipping is often higher than the price of the box itself!

(Of course, this only goes for "second category" EU countries and probably also overseas.)