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Lilas Pastia

I generally feel that way in II of 1, II and III of 2, and II of 3. And patches of V of 5, and II of 8 as well. As for the 7th, I feel only III is an unmitigated success. I'm still unconvinced by most of the reconstructed parts of 10, the weakest of the lot IMO. It could very well be that only 4, 6, 9 and Das Lied sound entirely successful to my ears.

That being said, it doesn't mean Mahler's symphonies are failures. Even the least convincing of them is way above most of Tchaikovsky's output (and I love Tchaikovsky!). In the end, it has to be experienced whole, warts and all. I have a distinct feeling that the interpretations that succeed best in engaging my undivided attention are those that attempt the least to stun and wow me. The purely 'symphonic' and unaffected interpretations of Bruno Walter or Bernard Haitink (with the COA) score mightily in that respect. This weekend I was listening to Walter's 1 and 2 after a decade long hiatus. I was held in its thrall throughout. The purity of Walter's singing line (in I of 1, II of 2 for example) made my ears perk up in enchantment. And I didn't expect such fine, wide ranging recordings. The might of the bass drum in 1 and the organ part that crowns 2 were astounding.

Sometimes - but only sometimes - I fall for an idiosyncratic view of those works. Like Barbirolli's 6th for example. Mahler is not overrated. But he is definitely overplayed and way over-recorded.

karlhenning

Quote from: Lilas Pastia on May 18, 2009, 08:11:19 AM
. . . Mahler is not overrated. But he is definitely overplayed and way over-recorded.

I have that feeling often, too, André.  Though I am still willing to judge Mahler by the best of the performances.

Bulldog

Quote from: Lilas Pastia on May 18, 2009, 08:11:19 AM
Mahler is not overrated. But he is definitely overplayed and way over-recorded.

The same could easily be said about any of the most popular composers: Bach, Vivaldi, Beethoven, etc.  For me, Vivaldi is overplayed, but that's because I don't have much affection for his music.

karlhenning

Well, Beethoven is greater than Mahler, but he's way over-recorded, too.

mahler10th

#47004
Aye.   ;D
The underrecorded greats.

not edward

Two delightful, and in my opinion underrated symphonies:

Berwald: Symphonie singuliere (RPO/Bjorlin)
Beethoven: Symphony #4 (Leningrad/Mravinsky)

And then something a lot darker, in a devastating performance:

Prokofiev: Symphony #6 (Leningrad/Mravinsky)
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

George



PC 2
Movement one

Listened at lunchtime, or I certainly would have listened to the whole thing. This is great! I wonder why I hadn't heard of this recording before. 

Brian



Been a favorite of mine since its release in 2006.

DavidRoss

Mahler 7th, Sinopoli/Philharmonia

Artistically I think it's better to leave them wanting more rather than thinking there was a bit too much of a good thing.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Solitary Wanderer



I'm enjoying this more and more...
'I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.' ~ Emily Bronte

Brian



DEBUSSY | Orchestrations by Caplet, Ansermet, Stokowski, etc.
Orchestre symphonique de Quebec
Yoav Talmi


Goodness, this is a total delight! Currently playing: Ernest Ansermet's lovely orchestration of the six Epigraphes antiques.

Fëanor

Brian Ferneyhough:


  • Kurze Schatten II, for solo guitar (1994)
  • Terrain, for violin and wind octet (1993)

Ferneyhough is going to take some work on my part.

karlhenning

Quote from: Feanor on May 18, 2009, 04:15:43 PM
Ferneyhough is going to take some work on my part.

Playing, listening, or both?

DavidRoss

Mendelssohn & Bruch VCs, Midori/Jansons/BP 

As sweet, lovely, and refined as the album photo suggests
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Coopmv

Quote from: Bulldog on May 18, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
The same could easily be said about any of the most popular composers: Bach, Vivaldi, Beethoven, etc.  For me, Vivaldi is overplayed, but that's because I don't have much affection for his music.

In addition to many single CD's, I have 2 complete sets of his concertos, 18-LP set by I Musici and 18-CD set by I Solisti Veneti.  Vivaldi's Four Seasons is definitely overplayed but I do not feel much of his other works are necessarily overplayed ...

Coopmv

Now playing this CD, the best Bach Sonatas for Viola da gamba und Cembalo I have heard to date ...


Bogey

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Coopmv

Now playing this CD, which covers essentially the same works as the previous CD by Savall and Koopman, BWV 1027 where the piano replaced the harpsichord ...



Bogey

Quote from: Coopmv on May 18, 2009, 06:37:15 PM
Now playing this CD, which covers essentially the same works as the previous CD by Savall and Koopman, BWV 1027 where the piano replaced the harpsichord ...




I like that pairing Stuart, but how are they with Bach?  Is it too heavy?
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Coopmv

Quote from: Bogey on May 18, 2009, 06:42:27 PM
I like that pairing Stuart, but how are they with Bach?  Is it too heavy?

Very lyrical performance with excellent interpretation and execution ...