Haydn's Haus

[snyprrr]

arph!-my computer won't load your stuff.

I've perused the youtube. I thought there might be a Haydn fan's site somewhere. I just can't can't buy the bunch again just for cursory studying.

It's 6am!!! What is everyone doing up on a Sunday morning?

[Lethevich]

Ah, lame. The direct links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCXg8xo31h0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nIv1sTqx0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJyNqWGC9jw

Answer: I've been awake all night. Thank you so much, insomnia, this is heaven...

[Gabriel]

It's 6am!!! What is everyone doing up on a Sunday morning?

Other possible answer is that people from other parts of the world (and thus perhaps in a different time zone) might have been connected.

[Gurn Blanston]

I just noticed something interesting on the French language Wikipedia - the symphonies have been categorised in a more detailed way than I commonly see:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_symphonies_de_Joseph_Haydn

Surely it's not this cut and dry, but is there any merit in describing the "in between" symphonies in these ways?

Sara,
Not sure to what you are referring, but if it is the "Tost" and "d'Ogny" designations, these were the people affiliated with the Paris orchestra that commissioned the "Paris" and "Chunnel" (don't cha just love that name?) symphonies. This was the same Johann Tost who was an Esterhazy fiddler on his way to Paris, to whom Haydn entrusted the Op 64 string quartets to deliver to a publisher there, and who (it is believed) tried to steal them until he found that they were worth more as Haydn works than any other way. I guess they had a reconciliation.



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Listening to:
Berlin Opera Orchestra / Oskar Fried - Op 125 Symphony #9 in d 3rd mvmt - Adagio molto e cantabile

[Lethevich]

Thanks I also wondered what the "pre-classicism" designation referred to, as they include a lot of quite major and perfectly balanced works under this, plus there is also the rather confident choice of where to cut off the S&D period...

[Gurn Blanston]

Thanks I also wondered what the "pre-classicism" designation referred to, as they include a lot of quite major and perfectly balanced works under this, plus there is also the rather confident choice of where to cut off the S&D period...

Well, I have to resort to guessing what was in the author's mind here. I think he is relying solely on chronology to classify with, which is a course that we in the Classical Corner frown on.   One can hardly say that all the symphonies from 34 to 59 are Stürm und Drang, can one? Especially when, for example, #53 was composed <>1779 and is scarcely S & D in style or content. But then again, it is such a grey space between "pre-Classical" and "Classical" that any number of arguments that one cares to put forth will be easily countered by the opposition in any case. So, we let him have his way, even though it is based on confusing generalisations.



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Listening to:
Berlin Opera Orchestra / Oskar Fried - Op 125 Symphony #9 in d 4th mvmt - Presto - Allegro assai / Recitative - Allegro assai

[karlhenning]

You know, Gurn, it's probably time I planned to listen through to all the symphonies . . . .

[Gurn Blanston]

You know, Gurn, it's probably time I planned to listen through to all the symphonies . . . .

Wonderful idea, Karl, and timely too since the 200th anniversary of his passing is upon us (May 31). You know, I think there are still ideas there that remain to be explored by composers, even of today. Just sayin'...

[Opus106]

Maybe it's time I bought my first CD with one of Haydn's work featured in it. Need to get one with Handel's, too, but talking about that would be taking things off topic.

[karlhenning]

Great notion, Op67 . . . Gurn, impossible question over to you:  if you had only one disc devoted to Haydn's works, what should the works be? 

[Gurn Blanston]

Great notion, Op67 . . . Gurn, impossible question over to you:  if you had only one disc devoted to Haydn's works, what should the works be? 

No, it's an impossible question for me, too. No single disk can do any sort of justice. However, if you are an orchestral fan, then a disk with 3 London symphonies on it (any 3, all great) would be the way to go. If you like sacred music, then one of the 6 late masses. Vocal: The Creation.  Chamber: Op 76 #1-3 or "4 Late Piano Trios". Solo keyboard: there is one with a couple of late sonatas and a brilliant set of variations. Hell, name a genre, Haydn can make you happy.

[Florestan]

No, it's an impossible question for me, too. No single disk can do any sort of justice. However, if you are an orchestral fan, then a disk with 3 London symphonies on it (any 3, all great) would be the way to go. If you like sacred music, then one of the 6 late masses. Vocal: The Creation.  Chamber: Op 76 #1-3 or "4 Late Piano Trios". Solo keyboard: there is one with a couple of late sonatas and a brilliant set of variations. Hell, name a genre, Haydn can make you happy.

Wrong answer. I would have expected something to the effect of postponing the reply until the advance of technology would make it possible to have Haydn's opera omnia on a single disc

[Opus106]

Wouldn't the wonders of FLAC and SACD-sans-the-SA CD do the job? Karl didn't mention audio CD. Make it a data disc.

[Gabriel]

Wrong answer. I would have expected something to the effect of postponing the reply until the advance of technology would make it possible to have Haydn's opera omnia on a single disc

Great answer.

[karlhenning]

You know, Gurn, it's probably time I planned to listen through to all the symphonies . . . .

Wonderful idea, Karl, and timely too since the 200th anniversary of his passing is upon us (May 31). You know, I think there are still ideas there that remain to be explored by composers, even of today. Just sayin'...

And here we go!

[Josquin des Prez]

Great notion, Op67 . . . Gurn, impossible question over to you:  if you had only one disc devoted to Haydn's works, what should the works be?  

If i can stretch it to two, it will be his Op. 76 as performed by the Tatrai quartet.

[Gurn Blanston]

If i can stretch it to two, it will be his Op. 76 as performed by the Tatrai quartet.

Nope, that's cheating.

Which will it be? 1, 2 & 3  OR 4, 5, & 6?  I would rec the first three.



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Listening to:
Boston Baroque / Pearlman - Bach Concerto #5 in D BWV 1050 1st mvmt

[Josquin des Prez]

Which will it be? 1, 2 & 3  OR 4, 5, & 6?

I can't pick one. I hate you. 

[Gurn Blanston]

I can't pick one. I hate you. 

That's OK, I've been hated before (married 3 times, you know?).



PS - now you see why I chickened out when it was posed to ME.

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Listening to:
Boston Baroque / Pearlman - Bach Concerto #5 in D BWV 1050 1st mvmt

[Peregrine]

Anyone heard the Auryn SQ on Tacet? I'm considering purchasing their Op.33, but would be helpful if anyone has any comments to make.