4 Great Englishmen

[robnewman]

1. Oliver Cromwell

http://www.olivercromwell.org/

2. John Wesley

http://www.brycchancarey.com/abolition/wesley.htm

3. Captain James Cook

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cook

4. Edward Elgar

Pomp and Circumstance March No. 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moL4MkJ-aLk&feature=related

[Joe_Campbell]

Everyone gets a bio link but Elgar? 

[71 dB]

Everyone gets a bio link but Elgar? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgar

[robnewman]

Everyone gets a bio link but Elgar? 

And nobody gets a musical link except him ? 

[bwv 1080]

you could maybe ask the Irish about Cromwell


George Washington

Alexander Hamilton

John Adams

Thomas Jefferson

[karlhenning]

John

Paul

George

Richard

[Franco]

Guido Fawkes
Robert Catesby
Hugh Owen
Thomas Winter

[Elgarian]

If we're going to have Elgar represented, let's not have the bombast of the P&C for the five billionth time. Let's have something heartbreakingly delicate, sensual, deeply personal. Something that really epitomises the man. Like the violin sonata:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQL2wh-o69U

Or the gruelling, naked soul-searching of the cadenza of the violin concerto (with half an eye on my avatar, maybe?):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdepmPOJmM

[robnewman]

Guido Fawkes
Robert Catesby
Hugh Owen
Thomas Winter

Well, they were failures. And they were destructive/murderous men who were motivated by religious fanaticism. But that makes them 'great' in your eyes. I suppose your heroes include the murderer of Abraham Lincoln ? Perhaps you can tell us why ? On the other hand, don't bother. Since I will not bother to write to you again.

Thanks

[robnewman]

If we're going to have Elgar represented, let's not have the bombast of the P&C for the five billionth time. Let's have something heartbreakingly delicate, sensual, deeply personal. Something that really epitomises the man. Like the violin sonata:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQL2wh-o69U

Or the gruelling, naked soul-searching of the cadenza of the violin concerto (with half an eye on my avatar, maybe?):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdepmPOJmM

Fine. A part of the 'Enigma Variations' -

Edward Elgar
City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra
Simon Rattle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtBy9DUj1Ss&feature=PlayList&p=0002A660FB619B39&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=58

[DavidW]

Churchill, enough said.

[karlhenning]

If we're going to have Elgar represented, let's not have the bombast of the P&C for the five billionth time.

Solidarity, brother!

[karlhenning]

George Washington

Alexander Hamilton

John Adams

Thomas Jefferson

Outstanding post, BTW, BWV!

[robnewman]

Solidarity, brother!

Let us be in solidarity on one thing. The enemy of civil rights, of the US Constitution, of freedom of speech, of freedom of religion, and even of the freedom of nation states is our enemy. And so are the dogmas and self-interests of a corrupt church system headed up by the brutal dominance of Rome. Whose history is filled with blood and violence. She, with her daughters and her fraternities are working tirelessly in the fields of politics, banking, the mass media, the academic world, that of music and the arts, and even within forces of law and order to undermine virtually every aspect of our modern lives. The denominational church system being (as it always was) a crude impersonation of Christianity and its most deceptive counterfeit and enemy in all ages. Starting with Rome.

Nothing is new. Our Christian solidarity is to the Author of our faith, the Word. And nothing else. Not to any church. Not to any fraternity. Not to any dogmas or to any creed. And, as for the rest, it is a vacuum, a sink of corruption, perversion and delusion. A service station for being filled with evil. Your Catholic passport or that of your church denomination is worth nothing.

We will be judged on the simple fact of having done, or not having done, to the least of His people, according to His Will. But as for Churchianity, the counterfeit of Christianity, it has no future in the plan of God except to be destroyed by fire by Him at the fullness of the age.

In place of ugly human solidarity is unity. And the difference shows in everything we do.

[Elgarian]

Is it your turn to buy the popcorn, Karl, or mine?

[Brian]

Let us be in solidarity on one thing. The enemy of civil rights, of the US Constitution, of freedom of speech, of freedom of religion, and even of the freedom of nation states is our enemy. And so are the dogmas and self-interests of a corrupt church system headed up by the brutal dominance of Rome. Whose history is filled with blood and violence. She, with her daughters and her fraternities are working tirelessly in the fields of politics, banking, the mass media, the academic world, that of music and the arts, and even within forces of law and order to undermine virtually every aspect of our modern lives. The denominational church system being (as it always was) a crude impersonation of Christianity and its most deceptive counterfeit and enemy in all ages. Starting with Rome.

Nothing is new. Our Christian solidarity is to the Author of our faith, the Word. And nothing else. Not to any church. Not to any fraternity. Not to any dogmas or to any creed. And, as for the rest, it is a vacuum, a sink of corruption, perversion and delusion. A service station for being filled with evil. Your Catholic passport or that of your church denomination is worth nothing.

We will be judged on the simple fact of having done, or not having done, to the least of His people, according to His Will. But as for Churchianity, the counterfeit of Christianity, it has no future in the plan of God except to be destroyed by fire by Him at the fullness of the age.

In place of ugly human solidarity is unity. And the difference shows in everything we do.

Frankly, it was inevitable that Rob Newman Threads and Religion Threads would eventually become a single phenomenon.

[robnewman]

Frankly, it was inevitable that Rob Newman Threads and Religion Threads would eventually become a single phenomenon.

You are right. We must work to avoid having a split personality Brian. But since expressions of solidarity and brotherhood by Karl Henning and expressions of unity within Christianity by me are both well worth hearing/reading, no harm was done. I do hope you agree. Organised religion is a curse on our world. But that too you may agree on. I fight Romanism in the same way that every Christian has done down the ages.

[karlhenning]

Vivian Smith-Smythe-Smith

Simon Zinc-Trumpet-Harris

Gervaise Brook-Hampster

Oliver St John-Mollusc

[karlhenning]

Organised religion is a curse on our world. But that too you may agree on. I fight Romanism in the same way that every Christian has done down the ages.

Newman,

I have written in the past few hours to the Moderators of the forum to stop a small group of disruptive members from posting nonsense on threads. This thread is about '4 Great Englishmen' and you are once again filling it with nonsense.

I ask you to withdraw your post from here. If not, I will send it (once again) to the Moderator for their own action.

Thank You

[karlhenning]

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