Mendelssohn vs. Wagner

Started by MN Dave, September 11, 2009, 05:26:36 AM

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Which do you prefer?

Mendelssohn
21 (47.7%)
Wagner
23 (52.3%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Josquin des Prez

Perhaps those who find Wagner to be too heavy and soporific may want to try some of his earlier operas. I'd start with Sawallisch's recording of Die Feen, which is an interesting mix between Beethoven and Weber and is full of traditional harmonies and melodies, which should make it easy listening. To be frank, i was surprised just how good the music is since this is considered to be juvenillia by most.

Cato

Quote from: DavidW on September 14, 2009, 06:29:49 AM
Have you seen Karajan conduct?  Eyes closed... we were supposed to believe it's a sign of intensity and passion, but I think he's just catching a few Z's. ;)

We might have a whole new market here: Wagnerian Sleep Aerobics!

I can see the 30-minute infomercial now, with Morgan Fairchild as our host!   8)  "Raise your arms," she purrs, "close your eyes, wiggle that baton, and let's begin the Ride of the Valkyries!!!"   $:)

Sleep might not necessarily be involved until later!   0:)
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Franco

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on September 14, 2009, 06:35:19 AM
Perhaps those who find Wagner to be too heavy and soporific may want to try some of his earlier operas. I'd start with Sawallisch's recording of Die Feen, which is an interesting mix between Beethoven and Weber and is full of traditional harmonies and melodies, which should make it easy listening. To be frank, i was surprised just how good the music is since this is considered to be juvenillia by most.

For me, it would make more sense to listen to Weber or Beethoven sounding like themselves rather than Wagner not sounding like Wagner.

I feel no compulsion to include RW in my listening.  I used to, but, thankfully, not any longer.

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Franco on September 14, 2009, 06:40:23 AM
For me, it would make more sense to listen to Weber or Beethoven sounding like themselves rather than Wagner not sounding like Wagner.

Influence isn't the same thing as imitation.

Quote from: Franco on September 14, 2009, 06:40:23 AM
I feel no compulsion to include RW in my listening.  I used to, but, thankfully, not any longer.

Cool story bro.

marvinbrown

#124
Quote from: DavidW on September 14, 2009, 06:23:20 AM
A marathon run through the Ring has been known to kill small animals and put larger creatures like humans into a coma state. ;D

 No I am not sure what that "thing"  ;D in your avatar has been listening to but I am certain it wasn't Wagner! Rest assured that Wagner's Ring would have flattened that "road kill" in you avatar out, kind of like being run over by this:

   

 marvin

Gurn Blanston

#125
Quote from: marvinbrown on September 14, 2009, 07:14:05 AM
 No I am not sure what that "thing"  ;D in your avatar has been listening to but I am certain it wasn't Wagner! Rest assured that Wagner's Ring would have flattened that "road kill" in you avatar out, kind of like being run over by this:

   

 marvin

Does this:   
Lead to this:

:D

8)
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marvinbrown

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 14, 2009, 07:17:27 AM
Does this:

Lead to this:

:D

8)


  LOL!! Oh my God that is hillarious!! LOL!!

  PS: In response: YES!   8)

  marvin

 

Rod Corkin

Another 'light conversation starter'?   ::)

In that case I suggest management unlocks my Bach vs. Handel topic!  :o
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MN Dave

Quote from: Rod Corkin on September 14, 2009, 07:50:05 AM
Another 'light conversation starter'?   ::)

In that case I suggest management unlocks my Bach vs. Handel topic!  :o

Go away.

Opus106

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DavidW

Quote from: Rod Corkin on September 14, 2009, 07:50:05 AM
Another 'light conversation starter'?   ::)

In that case I suggest management unlocks my Bach vs. Handel topic!  :o

Rod does have a point there. :)

ChamberNut

Quote from: Rod Corkin on September 14, 2009, 07:50:05 AM
In that case I suggest management unlocks my Bach vs. Handel topic!  :o

At least this isn't a blowout.  ;D

Gabriel

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on September 14, 2009, 06:35:19 AM
Perhaps those who find Wagner to be too heavy and soporific may want to try some of his earlier operas. I'd start with Sawallisch's recording of Die Feen, which is an interesting mix between Beethoven and Weber and is full of traditional harmonies and melodies, which should make it easy listening. To be frank, i was surprised just how good the music is since this is considered to be juvenillia by most.

I attended this year a performance of Die Feen in Paris, and even if it's a very enjoyable composition, it doesn't modify in one milimetre my predilection for Mendelssohn over Wagner.

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Franco

QuoteJosquin des Prez

Would you consider posting under a different screen name?



Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Franco on September 14, 2009, 09:58:50 AM
Would you consider posting under a different screen name?

What for?

knight66

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