Fat Enders

[Mozart]

Just in case anyone thinks me dishonest...

The first photo is around Jan 5-10 2009
and the 2nd one from 5 mins ago

[Novi]

Okay Fat Enders, new moment of now!  Time to get (back) with the program!  I missed my run yesterday--just didn't get up early enough to run before starting the rest of a highly scheduled day.   Today, no excuses!  I can be out there by 6 am, run an hour, then back for melon!  On the plus side, I've stayed away from Cherry Garcia and similar indulgences, so I'm not feeling too bad. 

Secondwind, a rest day here and there could be a good thing - gives the muscles time to heal. Have you tried frozen grapes? Higher sugar than melon, but very nice in place of ice cream, perhaps. Your dedication is impressive - I managed maybe three 6ish am starts before I gave up and reverted to evening runs.

The next day after my usual exercise etc I get on the scales. 14 stone 2 - I've gained 3 pounds. Today, again, fully back to the heedless melon routine, I'm still 14 stone 2. Now - if I actually weighed the food I consumed during that day out, it would weigh LESS than 3 pounds. My body can only have absorbed (and converted to fat) a fraction of that - so this extra can only be due to water retention. But WHY? WHY?
WHY?

Salty meal maybe?

[Novi]

207 pound Mozart
158 pound Mozart


I do look cooler at 207 I guess, but its hard to take a photo of yourself with a webcam. In fact its just one frame from a video...so excuse the stupid face I am making.

Wow, that's quite a loss. Are you still wanting to lose more weight though? I think you look good at the moment.

[Mozart]

Wow, that's quite a loss. Are you still wanting to lose more weight though? I think you look good at the moment.

I'm fine with the weight now, I want to lose some body fat. I'm almost at my ideal weight and figure, so I will try a bit more. But I haven't been trying at all, it just happened when I started eating well.

[MN Dave]

Oy, my fat end!

[Elgarian]

On the plus side, I've stayed away from Cherry Garcia and similar indulgences, so I'm not feeling too bad. 

Missed this when I posted earlier. Congratulations on the indulgence-avoidance progress. (As noted earlier, I'm now paying the price for my day of sin.)

[Harpo]

207 pound Mozart
158 pound Mozart

Wish I had your waistline!    How tall are you?

[Mozart]

Wish I had your waistline!    How tall are you?

Right now my waist is 33 inches (84 cms), I'd like to loose 1 maybe 2 more there, and I am 180 cms or 5 ft 11 about, can't grow anymore

I will start doing more physical activity soon, probably oct 5 sounds like an arbitrary enough day to begin, after the end of the heat is over. I like to walk, but its hard to walk when everything outside is ugly, its very uninviting. I thought about going to walk earlier and I said what will I see? Ugly streets, ugly cars, ugly people, poor air, no trees...and it discourages me. I hope to move in the next few months.

[Mozart]

I just want to add again how simple it was to lose weight. I ate lots of food and I still eat lots of food, food I enjoyed alot. In May when I weighed myself after 4 months, I couldn't believe I weighed 176! How was that possible to lose 30 pounds in 4 months, without not being hungry ever? You can force yourself to cut out your ice cream and things, but its not fun and for that reason won't work. You won't resist a craving for long. Just add fresh, raw things in each day, more berries, more apples ext...back in winter and spring I had oatmeal for my breakfast, and will probably start again with that when it gets cooler. I loved french fries, but instead I make potato wedges, which taste even better. I even like the taste of broccoli...raw of course. And I feel like I'm just starting, I want to grow wheatgrass and drink it's juice each day. A juicer would be nice. I want to (and do a little bit of) grow sprouts of things, and if not make a salad, make it into juice.


Anyways my point was its easy, it was soooo easy. You just need the right strategy. Forcing yourself to do things that you don't enjoy won't work in the long run.

[secondwind]

It all seems unfair. For the first time in years, I dip below 14 stone (see above).

Then I have a family day out with my daughter. We eat roast beef, Yorkshire pudding, ice cream. OK, bad stuff, but it was just one special day out, following weeks of struggle against the reckless heedlessness of watermelons.
The next day after my usual exercise etc I get on the scales. 14 stone 2 - I've gained 3 pounds. Today, again, fully back to the heedless melon routine, I'm still 14 stone 2. Now - if I actually weighed the food I consumed during that day out, it would weigh LESS than 3 pounds. My body can only have absorbed (and converted to fat) a fraction of that - so this extra can only be due to water retention. But WHY? WHY?
WHY?

Ouch, I know the feeling!  I think your weight gain is probably mostly from a high salt day causing you to retain a lot more water.  It should disappear soon.  But it is very discouraging to have the scale moving in the wrong direction! 

I've got melon and berries and apples in the fridge and a plan to run an hour every day.  Sooner or later, something's got to give!  I want to be posting before and after pictures like Mozart!

[Elgarian]

It should disappear soon.

This is what I want to hear! Excellent. And I trust you implicitly, SW, so it must be true. On we go, to another, healthier, lighter day.

Incidentally, like Mozart I try to find ways not to go hungry. I do eat large quantities of things like melon, plums, lettuce, tomatoes, mushrooms, rice cakes, Dutch crispbreads. But sometimes, I find, my system simply screams 'Yorkshire pudding, chips and treacle sponge!!'; and when that happens, nothing else will do until I give in and just do it.

[DavidW]

I've never had two of those three items Elgarian.

My current cravings are for biscuits (not as in cookies but as in real buttermilk biscuits) and honey.

[Elgarian]

I've never had two of those three items Elgarian.

Oh no! You poor fellow. Or (second thoughts) are you lucky, rather, never to have been exposed to such dangerous addictions. I presume Yorkshire pud and treacle sponge are the ones you're missing?

[DavidW]

Oh no! You poor fellow. Or (second thoughts) are you lucky, rather, never to have been exposed to such dangerous addictions. I presume Yorkshire pud and treacle sponge are the ones you're missing?

Yup those are the ones.   I had to google to even see what they looked like.

[Mozart]

This is what I want to hear! Excellent. And I trust you implicitly, SW, so it must be true. On we go, to another, healthier, lighter day.

Incidentally, like Mozart I try to find ways not to go hungry. I do eat large quantities of things like melon, plums, lettuce, tomatoes, mushrooms, rice cakes, Dutch crispbreads. But sometimes, I find, my system simply screams 'Yorkshire pudding, chips and treacle sponge!!'; and when that happens, nothing else will do until I give in and just do it.

One day I woke up, and all my cravings for junk left, and have not returned. It took a lot of work, and a lot of suffering, but I never get a craving for a snickers anymore. I'm not sure why I don't get them anymore, but I am glad they don't come. Nor do I miss eating them. Sometimes still though, seeing someone eat pizza will remind me of how I loved pizza and it will make me want it. But I realize its not the pizza I want, but the nostalgia. I don't miss eating meat at all, I mainly miss cheese. But if I eat it, it doesn't taste good to me anymore, its just a memory.

[Mozart]

Anyone ever take bee pollen before? I bought a bit to try it out, and its in water till tomorrow morning. tehehehhe I get some sort of fun trying new things like this. I think I'll die one day from taking the wrong thing

[Mozart]

Just saying folks, there is a much easier way and better way of doing things, instead the standard and painful way most of you follow.

In weight-loss programs, bee pollen stimulates the metabolic processes. It speeds caloric burn by lighting and stoking the metabolic fires. Honeybee pollen is coming to be recognized as Nature's true weight-loss food. Bee pollen is a low-calorie food. It contains only ninety calories per ounce. (An ounce is about two heaping tablespoons.) It offers 15 percent lecithin by volume. Lecithin is a substance that helps dissolve and flush fat from the body. This is one reason why bee pollen lowers low-density lipoproteins (LDL) surer and faster than any other food while helping increase the helpful high-density lipoproteins (HDL), which science says protect against cholesterol and heart disease.

By boosting the value of each nutrient present in the food you eat, bee pollen also eliminates cravings. Its natural phenylalanine content acts as an appetite suppressant. Phenylalanine is a natural amino acid that the body requires. It acts on your appestat, the control center that signals fullness and hunger. Mother Nature knows what she's about. You just plain won't want to eat as much when you take bee pollen regularly. When you are overweight, phenylalanine exerts a natural appetite suppressant effect.

The British Sports Council recorded increases in strength of as high as 40 to 50 percent in those taking bee pollen regularly. Even more astounding, the British Royal Society has reported height increases in adults who take pollen.

And tons more info

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/bee.htm

[DavidW]

Thank you for your wonderful contribution.  You are such an understanding person, you clearly see what others struggle with and can so clearly remove yourself from your own situation to understand both the differences and similarities between yourself and other people.

Mozart, you are such a marvelous human being.  You help find others find their own way to a healthy and happy life.  And you would never, ever inflate a bruised ego by jumping on a thread to brag about your accomplishments to people who so desperately want to be thin.  Why that would be vain!  Could you imagine such a person that would be so self-absorbed that they wouldn't even realize how much of an asshole that would make him!

And Mozart, could you imagine the type of person that would tell a person to eat healthy when they just explained in detail in several posts that he does?  Could you imagine how much it would show that person doesn't even care about the people he thinks that he's helping?  Well howdy I'm sure glad that we don't know anyone like that. 

I'm glad that none of us here are so simple minded that they would think that one plan would work for everyone.

[Mozart]

Thank you for your wonderful contribution.  You are such an understanding person, you clearly see what others struggle with and can so clearly remove yourself from your own situation to understand both the differences and similarities between yourself and other people.

You're welcome buddy.

Mozart, you are such a marvelous human being.  You help find others find their own way to a healthy and happy life.  And you would never, ever inflate a bruised ego by jumping on a thread to brag about your accomplishments to people who so desperately want to be thin.  Why that would be vain!  Could you imagine such a person that would be so self-absorbed that they wouldn't even realize how much of an asshole that would make him!

Now I am blushing  Your words touch my heart.

I'm glad that none of us here are so simple minded that they would think that one plan would work for everyone. Smiley

But its simple science, take less calories in than you use and you'll loose weight. Lets have a toast to that logic, which clearly works for everyone. It not only works, its a blast! Cin Cin

[Papageno]

And Mozart, could you imagine the type of person that would tell a person to eat healthy when they just explained in detail in several posts that he does?

Sorry, I just wanted to raise this question while we're at it:  I've always thought that it's eat healthily, not eat healthy.  What is more correct?