Historical Recordings

[ccar]

Who is the supporting orchestra here for the Mozart piece, cc?

Bogey,

In this one all the pieces are piano solo :

Mozart - Sonata no.8 KV.310 A minor
Scarlatti - Sonatas L.23 & L.413
JS Bach - Partita no.1 BWV 825; Choral Preludes BWV 599 & 639; Chorale - Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring (Cantata BWV 147) arr: Hess; Siciliano (Sonata BWV 1031) arr: Kempff

But there is the Mozart concerto no.21 (Karajan and the Lucerne Festival O) in other recordings - the recent EMI box set is a bargain way to get most of his recording output.

Carlos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG9IduF9X1Q

[Carolus]

A must have for every listener are 2d.and 3d.Enescu's violin sonatas by him with Lipatti.

[ccar]

A must have for every listener are 2d.and 3d.Enescu's violin sonatas by him with Lipatti.

Carolus

What a wonderful suggestion. As I write I am relistening the "gipsy" 3rd sonata and it is like a voyage to some distant and magical lost land. It is so "live" it begs for some drink to go with. Don't Know about any Roumanian. So I have to try if a good old Portuguese "aguardente" is rustic enough.

Carlos

   

PS But, of course, this has nothing to do with the beautiful "Parisian" sophistication of the 2nd.           

[Bogey]

Bogey,

In this one all the pieces are piano solo :

Mozart - Sonata no.8 KV.310 A minor
Scarlatti - Sonatas L.23 & L.413
JS Bach - Partita no.1 BWV 825; Choral Preludes BWV 599 & 639; Chorale - Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring (Cantata BWV 147) arr: Hess; Siciliano (Sonata BWV 1031) arr: Kempff

But there are the Mozart concerto no.21 (Karajan and the Lucerne Festival O) and the Mozart no.9 (Jochum and the Bayerichen RSO) in other recordings - the recent EMI box set is a bargain way to get most of his recording output.

Carlos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG9IduF9X1Q   

Ah, thanks.  I have these for Lipatti, the second which has the 21:

 

[ccar]

Bogey

I edited my previous post - the no.9 is played by Clara Haskil and not by Lipatti - my mistake because I was looking at the Tahra "Clara Haskil-Dinu Lipatti Hommage" CDs where some of their private recordings may be found.

Carlos

 

[George]

Clara Haskil was great! I love her Mozart Concertos, solo works and her Mozart and Beethoven Violin sonatas with Grumiaux.

[Mandryka]

. . .  the older style of playing, one that allowed for more interpretation.

No, surely not.

There are many performers practising nowerdays who interprate the music. Not all today's performers play like Hamelin.

Everything by Affanassiev.
Brendel's Diabellies
Everything by Sokolov
Ranki's Haydn
Philippe Cassard's Schubert
Hélène Grimaud's Brahms
Some of Gekic's Chopin
Everything by Pogorelich
Many things by Pletnev
Everything by Minkowski
Everything by Savall
Some of Norrington's Haydn (101)
The Alban Berg Quartet (esp in Brahms)

I could go on.

[Mandryka]

. . . this massive killing of the musical diversity and interpretation freedom.                         

Not convinced.


Think of the vast interpretive differences:


Haydn. Hamelin and Say and Bavouzet in the piano sonatas; Brueggen and Mackerras and Rattle and Fey in the symphonies. Aponyi and Jerusalem in the quartets.

Mozart Mackerras/Brendel and Sofronitski in the concertos. Minkowski and Mackerras in the symphonies. Brendel and Bilson in the sonatas.

Beethoven Lewis and Komen  in the solo piano music. Schoonderwoerd  and Aimard in the concertos. Takashi Asahina  and Brueggen in the symphonies.

I could go on.

(How surprising that Mackerras crops up so frequently -- he is clearly pretty important in my estimation -- more so than I had previously appreciated.)

[George]

No, surely not.

There are many performers practising nowerdays who interprate the music. Not all today's performers play like Hamelin.

Everything by Affanassiev.
Brendel's Diabellies
Everything by Sokolov
Ranki's Haydn
Philippe Cassard's Schubert
Hélène Grimaud's Brahms
Some of Gekic's Chopin
Everything by Pogorelich
Many things by Pletnev
Everything by Minkowski
Everything by Savall
Some of Norrington's Haydn (101)
The Alban Berg Quartet (esp in Brahms)

I could go on.

I didn't say that there weren't exceptions.

[Cristofori]

I got a great deal on this new 2 disc set on ebay. Recorded in 1954.



I don't believe I've ever heard these works by Bloch before. As a matter of fact, I don't think I have ANYTHING by Ernest Bloch in my collection. What other composers are similar in style?

[George]

Found this great website today

[Franco]

I got a great deal on this new 2 disc set on ebay. Recorded in 1954.



I don't believe I've ever heard these works by Bloch before. As a matter of fact, I don't think I have ANYTHING by Ernest Bloch in my collection. What other composers are similar in style?

That is a great recording.  If you like the Bloch quartets you might also like the string quartets by Zemlinsky, Hindemith and if you want to venture forth a bit farther into atonality, Stefan Wolpe.

[Carolus]

And do not forget Reger.

[Coopmv]

Found this great website today

Just bookmarked the website.  Thanks George.

[George]

Comparison of the Pearl and Opus Kura transfers of the Bach Cello Suites performed by Pablo Casals

....but I haven't had a chance to compare them [Pearl and Opus Kura transfers of Casal's Bach's Cello Suites] side by side yet. I'll do that over the weekend and post my impressions.

As promised, I have been comparing these two and I must say the Opus Kura sounds a bit clearer. You need to put up with the extra surface noise of course, but it's worth it IMO. The Pearl sounds cleaner, but more muffled. This might be the first time Pearl was found to have more filtering than a competitor. 

However, the Pearl issue has a few goodies not on the Opus Kura, so it's well worth picking up for those if you are lucky enough to see the Pearl set for cheap.

For a comparison of the Pearl and Naxos (Ward Marston) transfers, you can look here. However, the reviewer concludes that the Pearl is better, so one could deduce that the Opus Kura is the best transfer ever made of these legendary performances.

[Bogey]

Comparison of the Pearl and Opus Kura transfers of the Bach Cello Suites performed by Pablo Casals

As promised, I have been comparing these two and I must say the Opus Kura sounds a bit clearer. You need to put up with the extra surface noise of course, but it's worth it IMO. The Pearl sounds cleaner, but more muffled. This might be the first time Pearl was found to have more filtering than a competitor. 

However, the Pearl issue has a few goodies not on the Opus Kura, so it's well worth picking up for those if you are lucky enough to see the Pearl set for cheap.

For a comparison of the Pearl and Naxos (Ward Marston) transfers, you can look here. However, the reviewer concludes that the Pearl is better, so one could deduce that the Opus Kura is the best transfer ever made of these legendary performances.

Yup. Your review swung me to the Opus Kura, buddy.  I absolutely love it!  Have not forgotten about the 9th I promised you.

[George]

Yup. Your review swung me to the Opus Kura, buddy.  I absolutely love it!  Have not forgotten about the 9th I promised you.

On both counts, glad to hear it. 

I am also glad to see that this thread has become a sticky.

[Que]

Comparison of the Pearl and Opus Kura transfers of the Bach Cello Suites performed by Pablo Casals

Thanks George, this confirms my impression that Opus Kura is now leading the historical field.

Q

[Renfield]

Thanks George, this confirms my impression that Opus Kura is now leading the historical field.

Q

And on that note, I have just discovered/realised that Presto Classical stocks their entire catalogue!

(For very reasonable prices, might I add.)

[Orpheus]

Are these recordings





the same performance?

Is the naxos a better transfer?

What's your opinion about this recording?

Thanks

Orpheus