Mozart as punishment

[Spotswood]

Don't know if we've talked about this before, but it bears repeating:

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2010/03/04/classical-music-punishment.html

Not really sure how I feel about it. Exposure is always good, but you can indeed learn to hate something you're exposed to in detention, whether it "works" or not.

I love the last line: Just sit there and think about what you did. I never thought about what I did when I was being punished. I thought about getting out of there.

[DavidRoss]

Don't know if we've talked about this before, but it bears repeating:

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2010/03/04/classical-music-punishment.html

Not really sure how I feel about it. Exposure is always good, but you can indeed learn to hate something you're exposed to in detention, whether it "works" or not.

I love the last line: Just sit there and think about what you did. I never thought about what I did when I was being punished. I thought about getting out of there.

Better to punish them with Barbra Streisand or Barry Manilow, methinks.

[Bulldog]

A 60% drop in school rule infractions is impressive, but it could be a lot higher with Dittersdorf.

[Teresa]

  They could keep me in-line by playing Mozart in detention.  Mozart is the composer I hate the most and my personal idea of hell.  However, if they played Ravel in detention I would be finding ways to get into trouble.   

[Florestan]

Mozart is the composer I hate the most and my personal idea of hell. 

Hate??? Hell??? Then he must have harmed you in the most serious and unpardonable way. I wonder what it was: assault? robbery? disinheritance?

[karlhenning]

Mozart as punishment? I can take it.

[DavidRoss]

Hate??? Hell??? Then he must have harmed you in the most serious and unpardonable way. I wonder what it was: assault? robbery? disinheritance?

Good music, I suspect.

[Szykneij]

Hate??? Hell??? Then he must have harmed you in the most serious and unpardonable way. I wonder what it was: assault? robbery? disinheritance?

Not enough drums.

[karlhenning]

Mmm . . . Così fan tutte with a drum machine track!

[karlhenning]

Not enough drums.

Drums have no corners, no places to hide!

[Spotswood]

Teresa is not the only person I've seen on this board who dislikes Mozart. Others have been more discreet, however, fearing retribution.

I must confess, of the big three --- the others being Bach and Beethoven --- he's the one I listen to least frequently. I love the string quartets and quintets, but beyond them my interest sort of falls off. I don't know why.  Still, if I had to sit in detention, I can think of worse ways to spend the time. Having to watch The Ring: now that would keep me on my best behavior. 

[karlhenning]

Well, preferring to listen to other composers, sure.  Probably not that great a percentage of my own listening is Mozart.  But one's personal idea of hell? 

[flyingdutchman]

Teresa also dislikes Beethoven and Brahms symphonies.  She loves short, dramatic music, but won't go near what she calls "academic" music.

[Josquin des Prez]

Teresa is like that thing i was talking about.

[Brahmsian]

If they think listening to Mozart is punishment, they should also try forcing the students to drink a fine cup of coffee with their favorite book on a recliner with their dog sitting at their lap.

That will teach them!

[karlhenning]

Teresa is like that thing i was talking about.

A genius?

[Teresa]

Teresa also dislikes Beethoven and Brahms symphonies.  She loves short, dramatic music, but won't go near what she calls "academic" music.

This is generally true, however I do like some long compositions as long as they are musically captivating and hold my attention.  I listen to music to enjoy it.  Some of the longer works I like are most of the Symphonies of Mahler and Malcolm Arnold as well as Ballets, especially by Russian and American composers.  Tchaikiovsky's Sleeping Beauty is 2 1/2 hours long without intermission, seen live it is nearly 4 hours long.   So for me it is not length but how much material is used, how exciting and beautiful it is.  Some longer works reuse both melody and harmonic material until I get past the point of boredom.   This is another reason I don't care for minimalism as it takes this to an extreme. 

Also I prefer compositions that use the orchestra as a canvas for painting musical pictures and use the instruments of the orchestra as much for their tonal colors as for the notes they are able to play.  Thus my favorite musical forms are Tone Poems, Symphonic Poems, Overtures, Dances, Ballets and orchestral selections from Operas.

In reference to the topic at hand "Mozart as punishment", even though many of Mozart's Early Symphonies are no longer than overtures, it is the music itself not the length I do not like.  It's the notes Mozart's chooses are well as the harmony that goes with them that sound so sicking sweet to me that I want to commit suicide when listening to his music.  I have a real problem with the "sound" of most composers of the late Renaissance and Classical eras.  I love ancient, mediaeval and early Renaissance Dance and Troubadour music but then my interest does not pick up again until the Romantics and Moderns .

[Elgarian]

If they think listening to Mozart is punishment, they should also try forcing the students to drink a fine cup of coffee with their favorite book on a recliner with their dog sitting at their lap.

That will teach them!

Made me chuckle. Thanks.

[Josquin des Prez]

A genius?

No, the other thing, that which has no genius and no ability to recognize it in others.

[DavidRoss]

No, the other thing, that which has no genius and no ability to recognize it in others.

You and she are indeed two peas in a pod.  Perhaps she's available and you can finally get off of your mom's sofa!