Your Preferred Bach Pianist

Started by Bulldog, April 08, 2010, 11:05:36 AM

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Who is your favored Bach pianist

Edward Aldwell
0 (0%)
Till Fellner
5 (15.6%)
Edwin Fischer
6 (18.8%)
Evgeny Koroliov
8 (25%)
James Friskin
0 (0%)
Rosalyn Tureck
8 (25%)
Glenn Gould
16 (50%)
Samuel Feinberg
8 (25%)
Angela Hewitt
8 (25%)
Jeno Jando
0 (0%)
Wilhelm Kempff
3 (9.4%)
Joao Carlos Martins
1 (3.1%)
Andrew Rangell
0 (0%)
Wolfgang Rubsam
2 (6.3%)
Andras Schiff
10 (31.3%)
Maria Tipo
2 (6.3%)
Maria Yudina
2 (6.3%)
Murray Perahia
6 (18.8%)
Jill Crossland
3 (9.4%)
Maurizio Pollini
1 (3.1%)
Piotr Anderszewski
1 (3.1%)
Friedrich Gulda
4 (12.5%)
Sviatoslav Richter
8 (25%)
Simone Dinnerstein
0 (0%)
Keith Jarrett
0 (0%)
Bernard Roberts
0 (0%)
Martha Argerich
2 (6.3%)
Claudio Arrau
0 (0%)
Andrea Bacchetti
0 (0%)
Vladimir Feltsman
3 (9.4%)
Walter Gieseking
1 (3.1%)
Richard Goode
0 (0%)
Mieczyslaw Horszowski
2 (6.3%)
Sergey Schepkin
1 (3.1%)
Carl Seemann
0 (0%)
Craig Sheppard
2 (6.3%)
Grigory Sokolov
3 (9.4%)
Charles Rosen
0 (0%)
Peter Serkin
0 (0%)
Alexis Weissenberg
2 (6.3%)
Daniel Barenboim
2 (6.3%)
Evelyne Crochet
0 (0%)
Roger Woodward
1 (3.1%)
Andrei Vieru
1 (3.1%)
David Korevaar
0 (0%)
Andrei Gavrilov
4 (12.5%)
Tatiana Nikolayeva
2 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 32

Voting closed: April 13, 2010, 11:05:36 AM

Bulldog

You have 47 choices - pick any 10.  Select wisely.

My ten in no particular order:

Gould
Gulda
Vieru
Tureck
Koroliov
Sheppard
Crossland
Feinberg
Fellner
Woodward

Scarpia

Pogolerich! 



This recording of English Suite #3 earns him a spot on the list!

MN Dave

#2
I haven't heard most of them [in Bach], so...  :P

Marc

Quote from: MN Dave on April 08, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
I haven't heard most of them, so...  :P
Same here. I very rarely listen to Bach on the piano. It's worse enough already to listen to my own strumming.

Poor Sebastian.

Love me sublime
Mangle my mind
Do it in style
So we all know
Oh yeah.


With me, in style means: on the harpsichord. ;)

Oh, btw, I enjoy Ivo Janssen playing Bach. But he's not on the list. :P

DavidW

Quote from: MN Dave on April 08, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
I haven't heard most of them [in Bach], so...  :P

Same here because I'm not obsessed with performers, but was curious to see the results so I voted for Hewitt since I like her Bach. :)

Bulldog

Quote from: Marc on April 08, 2010, 12:39:21 PM
Same here. I very rarely listen to Bach on the piano. It's worse enough already to listen to my own strumming.

Poor Sebastian.

Love me sublime
Mangle my mind
Do it in style
So we all know
Oh yeah.


With me, in style means: on the harpsichord. ;)

I considered including harpsichordists but decided the list would be too long.  I'll do the harpsichord/clavichord group another time.

Just one vote for Craig Sheppard surprises me; I've heard only praise for his Bach.

Todd

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Marc

Quote from: Bulldog on April 08, 2010, 01:10:04 PM
I considered including harpsichordists but decided the list would be too long. I'll do the harpsichord/clavichord group another time.
Didn't mean to criticize, really. It's your poll, and to compare pianists and harpsichordists is comparing apples and pears, IMO.
Besides that: it would be very difficult to pick my fave harpsichordist, too. There are so many I haven't heard (yet).

Verena

QuoteJust one vote for Craig Sheppard surprises me; I've heard only praise for his Bach.
so far I haven't warmed to his Bach, but I have to relisten to it
Don't think, but look! (PI66)

Verena

Oh, I just noted that one of my absolute faves is missing from the list: Zhu Xiao-Mei. Love her Partitas and I'm very much looking forward to her forthcoming WTC 1 on Mirare. Deserves to be much more well-known.
Don't think, but look! (PI66)

Bulldog

Quote from: Verena on April 08, 2010, 01:43:01 PM
Oh, I just noted that one of my absolute faves is missing from the list: Zhu Xiao-Mei. Love her Partitas and I'm very much looking forward to her forthcoming WTC 1 on Mirare. Deserves to be much more well-known.

Sorry, I totally forgot about putting her on the list.  I have her Goldbergs and WTC II; both are worthy efforts.

Bulldog

Quote from: Todd on April 08, 2010, 01:25:49 PM
No Schnabel?

Right.  I just looked at the list, and he isn't there.

Seriously, I felt that if I included him for his bits and pieces on record, I would have been obliged to add many more pianists who did bits and pieces.

Bulldog

Quote from: Marc on April 08, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Didn't mean to criticize, really. It's your poll, and to compare pianists and harpsichordists is comparing apples and pears, IMO.

No problem, I didn't think of your post as being critical.

Personally, I think it's fine to compare pianists and harpsichordists for Bach's music:

Would you rather listen to Barenboim or Rousset playing Bach?  I'd go with Rousset, and the type of instrument used has nothing to do with my answer.

Holden

I could only find 6

Richter
Koroliov
Schepkin
Vieru
Feinberg
Dinnerstein
Cheers

Holden

Bulldog

Quote from: Holden on April 08, 2010, 02:11:20 PM
I could only find 6

Richter
Koroliov
Schepkin
Vieru
Feinberg
Dinnerstein

I pulled Schepkin out of my ten in order to include Vieru.  Both recorded exceptional WTC's, but I much prefer Vieru's Goldbergs to Schepkin's.

Dinnerstein's Goldbergs appeals to me greatly - superb use of rhythmic hesitations and wonderful virtuosity.

Marc

#15
Quote from: Bulldog on April 08, 2010, 02:10:30 PM
Personally, I think it's fine to compare pianists and harpsichordists for Bach's music:

Would you rather listen to Barenboim or Rousset playing Bach?  I'd go with Rousset, and the type of instrument used has nothing to do with my answer.
I do get your point. But in this particular case it does not work for me. IMO, it takes other and different skills to play these different instruments, and their sounds and effects are totally different, too.
If I would say: Rousset plays a more poignant Bach, then this could (also) be very well related to the fact that he plays a harpsichord instead of a piano. I even think that in this case the choice of instrument might say something about the musician, too, and the way he/she thinks Bach should be played. Don't get me wrong, though (just saying in case): I don't mean to say harpsichord is right and piano is wrong. I don't need another fight about that on a music board. :P

The same (or almost the same) with f.i. harpsichord and organ: sometimes a musician can be a better organist or vice versa, and in many cases the same piece sounds completely different at the other instrument.

For instance: let's compare three recordings of the Toccatas BWV 910-916. Kevin Bowyer plays them on the organ, Angela Hewitt on the piano, and Gustav Leonhardt on the harpsichord.

I could say in this case that Bowyer is my preferred Bach keyboard player, because he plays those pieces with the most different colours.
Second is Leonhardt, for being more poignant.
Third is Hewitt, for sounding the most romantic.
Would such a comparison be fair?

To me, I must admit that piano and harpsichord are totally different worlds. The sound of a harpsichord and the effect that it has on me almost comes closer to the sound of a lute, théorbe or chitaronne.

Bulldog

Quote from: Marc on April 08, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
I do get your point. But in this particular case it does not work for me. IMO, it takes other and different skills to play these different instruments, and their sounds and effects are totally different, too.
If I would say: Rousset plays a more poignant Bach, then this could (also) be very well related to the fact that he plays a harpsichord instead of a piano. I even think that in this case the choice of instrument might say something about the musician, too, and the way he/she thinks Bach should be played. Don't get me wrong, though (just saying in case): I don't mean to say harpsichord is right and piano is wrong. I don't need another fight about that on a music board. :P

The same (or almost the same) with f.i. harpsichord and organ: sometimes a musician can be a better organist or vice versa, and in many cases the same piece sounds completely different at the other instrument.

For instance: let's compare three recordings of the Toccatas BWV 910-916. Kevin Bowyer plays them on the organ, Angela Hewitt on the piano, and Gustav Leonhardt on the harpsichord.

I could say in this case that Bowyer is my preferred Bach keyboard player, because he plays those pieces with the most different colours.
Second is Leonhardt, for being more poignant.
Third is Hewitt, for sounding the most romantic.
Would such a comparison be fair?

To me, I must admit that piano and harpsichord are totally different worlds. The sound of a harpsichord and the effect that it has on me almost comes closer to the sound of a lute, théorbe or chitaronne.

I do agree that the type of instrument used can have some significance.  For me, Keith Jarrett's Bach is a perfect example.  Jarrett plays a rounded and seamless Bach.  Given that the piano doesn't have as sharp a sound as the harpsichord, Jarrett's Bach/piano recordings are problematic for my tastes; his rounded contours are exacerbated through use of a piano.  When Jarrett plays a harpsichord, this effect is reduced.

Brian

I hate to post "didn't vote" answers in both of your threads, but I really do not listen to Bach very much at all. Four times so far in 2010, according to my listening log. There is one Bach album which I do love undyingly, however...


Bulldog

Quote from: Brian on April 08, 2010, 05:11:13 PM
I hate to post "didn't vote" answers in both of your threads, but I really do not listen to Bach very much at all. Four times so far in 2010, according to my listening log.

You keep a listening log?  That sounds so unusual to me.  On the other hand, I keep a love-making log.

Just today, I've listened to Bach more than four times.  He gets at least 50% of my music time.

Bulldog

Quote from: Scarpia on April 08, 2010, 12:30:03 PM
Pogolerich! 



This recording of English Suite #3 earns him a spot on the list!

I did consider including Pogorelich, but to my mind the recording of two Suites didn't cut it.  By the way, I bought the original Bach/Pogorelich disc way back when - it's quite good.