Music that can unite Humanity

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Saul

If there was one single work that could be performed while the entire world is listening, which one would have the power to unite the entire people of the world, into a better understanding of each other, with the hope of living in harmony and peace?




Scarpia

Quote from: Saul on June 08, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
If there was one single work that could be performed while the entire world is listening, which one would have the power to unite the entire people of the world, into a better understanding of each other, with the hope of living in harmony and peace?

No.

Saul

The Power of Music, dont you believe it?

Scarpia

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Saul


greg

Quote from: Saul on June 08, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
If there was one single work that could be performed while the entire world is listening, which one would have the power to unite the entire people of the world, into a better understanding of each other, with the hope of living in harmony and peace?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBVYhyXU8o

We all understand suffering, after all.
And besides, any cheesy piece of music written for a purpose like that would make me run away and turn this on just to get it out of my head.

Saul

Quote from: Greg on June 08, 2010, 05:27:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBVYhyXU8o

We all understand suffering, after all.
And besides, any cheesy piece of music written for a purpose like that would make me run away and turn this on just to get it out of my head.

This is just too much! Such avant Garde!

some guy

Hahahaha, Saul.

Of course there's no one piece that can do what you propose. Just look at how you've reacted to the suggestions on your own thread.

The reality is that people are different from each other, and really, it's better that way. One piece. That everyone would like? Humanity would have to really seriously decline for that to ever happen.

I think Penderecki's Threnody's a pretty sweet piece, but if everyone liked it, that'd be a little bit creepy, no?

greg

Quote from: Saul on June 08, 2010, 05:53:14 PM
This is just too much! Such avant Garde!
I had a feeling you've never witnessed the majesty of the Threnody.  >:D :D


Quote from: some guy on June 08, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
Of course there's no one piece that can do what you propose. Just look at how you've reacted to the suggestions on your own thread.
If everyone liked it, I think I'd say I didn't like it even if I did just because I wouldn't want to be like everyone else...

karlhenning

Quote from: Saul on June 08, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
If there was one single work that could be performed while the entire world is listening, which one would have the power to unite the entire people of the world, into a better understanding of each other, with the hope of living in harmony and peace?

Lunar Glare.

Maybe
; )

starrynight

All music springs from the same impulses anyway, no 'special' piece of music is needed to 'unite' anyone.  It's just others who use music to pretend it represents some flag, assumed ethnicity,  ideology or whatever.

karlhenning

Quote from: starrynight on June 09, 2010, 05:00:10 AM
All music springs from the same impulses anyway . . . .

Does it?  Must be one of the memos that I missed.

Archaic Torso of Apollo

There isn't one, and that's good. There are some elements of humanity I wouldn't particularly wish to be united with.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Chaszz

Mick Jagger, when asked about the failure of the "love and peace" of the 1960s to change anything substantial in the world, said something to the effect of "Well, it was really rather naive to think that some pieces of music could change the world, wasn't it?"   

karlhenning

Quote from: Chaszz on June 09, 2010, 06:51:59 AM
Mick Jagger, when asked about the failure of the "love and peace" of the 1960s to change anything substantial in the world, said something to the effect of "Well, it was really rather naive to think that some pieces of music could change the world, wasn't it?"   

What the world needs now is "Oh, No" by Frank Zappa.

Todd

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Quote from: Saul on June 08, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
If there was one single work that could be performed while the entire world is listening, which one would have the power to unite the entire people of the world, into a better understanding of each other, with the hope of living in harmony and peace?



I'm thinking Peace Sells by Megadeth.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

not edward

How about some late Zimmermann (Bernd Alois, that is). That way we can all feel terminally despondent about the horror of the world and our inability to do anything to improve it.

Then the whole human race can unite in one glorious mass suicide. :)
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

False_Dmitry

I doubt there is one piece of music, or even a genre of music, that could do this - and probably it's a good thing that there isn't :)

But the idea that people could step aside from their obsessions with acquiring stuff, and enjoy music as music...  that most ephemeral of the arts that slips away once heard...  and realise that there is much more that unites us all as people, than separates us?   :)

Gawd, you can tell I grew up in the 1960s, can't you? ;)
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jochanaan

Interesting question, and responses!  But I tend to think that, much as I love music, it would take more than music to bring world peace.  Still, if someone had the idea of using music as part of a peacemaking process, it would have to be a piece that, first, the non-musicians would like, and second, the musicians could tolerate while it was doing its duty--a very, VERY tall order! :o  A "world piece for world peace"! :-\ ;D
Imagination + discipline = creativity

jhar26

Quote from: Chaszz on June 09, 2010, 06:51:59 AM
Mick Jagger, when asked about the failure of the "love and peace" of the 1960s to change anything substantial in the world, said something to the effect of "Well, it was really rather naive to think that some pieces of music could change the world, wasn't it?"
Well, the Stones didn't really stand for love and peace anyway. But 1960's rock changed the world to some degree. At the very least it mobilized people - or contributed to mobilizing people around issues like the Vietnam war and race relations and for a short time created a sense of community. Unfortunately women's rights were much less part of the agenda in the at the time even more macho world of rock'n'roll where everyone with a guitar thought that his dick was the centre of the universe. It had also a huge influence on fashion and popularized drug use and boinking a la cart. It would be a mistake to overrate the influence of 60's rock on the western world, but it would be equally wrong to argue that it had no influence whatsoever because it did - both positive and negative in equal measure.
Martha doesn't signal when the orchestra comes in, she's just pursing her lips.