Ottevanger's Omphaloskeptic Outpost

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Luke

#1580
Yes, I've done a spot of nesting before, but I've never gone beyond a couple of layers. And Karl, yes, there is certainly at least one simpler way to notate it....but it's rather beautiful, mathematically speaking, the whole Zeno thing!

Here's what I've just written, in context (this is only sketch, and the last couple of bars are not how I envisage the music remaining). See if it makes sense, musically speaking (I mean the word in its traditional, non-Teresa-esque meaning). This section is 'recapitulation', and in the earlier rendering, there are no nested triplets at all - in other words, they are an accretion derived from bits and pieces in the development section. The final one, the one I am 'concerned' about, also serves to shoot the music up the octave from what would have been the case had this been literal repetition; personally I would have no worries about it, as it works well to my mind and ears, if it wasn't so notationally unusual! Enough chat, here's the music:


Luke

Quote from: Luke on June 19, 2010, 05:06:01 AM
Yes, I've done a spot of nesting before, but I've never gone beyond a couple of layers.


All sounds a bit deviant, doesn't it.......?  :-[

karlhenning

Quote from: Luke on June 19, 2010, 05:09:37 AM
Yes, I've done a spot of nesting before, but I've never gone beyond a couple of layers.

Said the actress to the dodo . . . .

Luke


Luke

Subtle change to my profile, to mark this momentous day.

greg

I think there are some little birds out there in the trees who wish you were their father...

Luke

I think so too. Explains why the little buggers always wake me up first thing in the morning with their so-called 'singing', if my real-life human kids haven't done the job already.

greg

They're just singing the "Father Luke, Please Bring Us A Breakfast of Regurgitated Worms" song, composed by Ubloobideega, of course.  8)

Guido

Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

Luke

#1589
Struggling a bit with the last page, and then I might actually have a finished piece to show you. Though this is just me tidying up some loose ends, providing some sort of a conclusion to the flute piece I began last year. You can even see it in the score - diamond note heads = new additions tacked on to provide the last few pages, as if an editorially-supplied completion to enable the piece to be played.

Got dozens of pieces on the go to some degree or other, but have never been in the right 'place' long enough to quite see them all through just yet. But I will, in the end. And in amongst them is a harpsichord/clarinet piece, Karl.....and possibly, just possibly, you know not to hold your breath, a solo cello one, Guido. And there's a piano piece which is 5/6ths done, and a song for voice and violin which is half done, and this flute piece which is on the final page, I think... So you see, it's all been boiling away, but my year of violent ups-and-downs has still had a few uber-painful kicks in the teeth for me recently which have affected my composing heavily.

Guido

Quote from: Luke on June 20, 2010, 02:49:09 AM
Struggling a bit with the last page, and then I might actually have a finished piece to show you. Though this is just me tidying up some loose ends, providing some sort of a conclusion to the flute piece I began last year. You can even see it in the score - diamond note heads = new additions tacked on to provide the last few pages, as if an editorially-supplied completion to enable the piece to be played.

Got dozens of pieces on the go to some degree or other, but have never been in the right 'place' long enough to quite see them all through just yet. But I will, in the end. And in amongst them is a harpsichord/clarinet piece, Karl.....and possibly, just possibly, you know not to hold your breath, a solo cello one, Guido. And there's a piano piece which is 5/6ths done, and a song for voice and violin which is half done, and this flute piece which is on the final page, I think... So you see, it's all been boiling away, but my year of violent ups-and-downs has still had a few uber-painful kicks in the teeth for me recently which have affected my composing heavily.

Good to know you're back in business. I will wait as patiently as I can! Has this solo cello piece evolved from the cello/piano sonata that you described?
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

Luke

#1591
Quote from: Guido on June 20, 2010, 03:29:55 AM
Good to know you're back in business. I will wait as patiently as I can! Has this solo cello piece evolved from the cello/piano sonata that you described?

No, if it happens it will be a completely different piece. And the other one....well, the idea is still there, and I like it as much as ever, even though it's over a year old now!

I forgot to mention my fugues.....having a great deal of fun with them! A couple of summers ago, I think, I came back from holiday in France and wrote something here about some silly little fugues I'd been writing based on, shall we say, 'unusual' subjects. Long wine-fuelled late night discussions with my brother and brother-in-law had prompted them, a way of keeping my composing hand in whilst abroad, as well as a stupid little in-joke. Well, I wrote or began a few of them whilst in France, but then once I got home I left them for a long time - after all, they were only silly, they served no real function and didn't really have a home anywhere, once the initial joke had been made. But I returned to them in the last couple of months, I'm not sure why, and have now done 10 of the 12 (one for each degree of the chromatic scale). They seemed, somehow, a more serious enterprise this time - if a 5 part fugue in C sharp major sounds good and even beautiful, even perhaps moving, then what does it matter that the subject chosen is from Black Lace's Agadoo. And what does it mean? It left me thinking all sorts of odd things! I'm a little stalled on numbers 10 and 11, but I can't wait to have them done. Hopefully they will bring a few smiles to a few faces....

karlhenning

Quote from: Luke on June 20, 2010, 02:49:09 AM
Got dozens of pieces on the go to some degree or other, but have never been in the right 'place' long enough to quite see them all through just yet. But I will, in the end. And in amongst them is a harpsichord/clarinet piece, Karl....

Molto bene!

Guido

Quote from: Luke on June 20, 2010, 06:48:42 AM
No, if it happens it will be a completely different piece. And the other one....well, the idea is still there, and I like it as much as ever, even though it's over a year old now!

I forgot to mention my fugues.....having a great deal of fun with them! A couple of summers ago, I think, I came back from holiday in France and wrote something here about some silly little fugues I'd been writing based on, shall we say, 'unusual' subjects. Long wine-fuelled late night discussions with my brother and brother-in-law had prompted them, a way of keeping my composing hand in whilst abroad, as well as a stupid little in-joke. Well, I wrote or began a few of them whilst in France, but then once I got home I left them for a long time - after all, they were only silly, they served no real function and didn't really have a home anywhere, once the initial joke had been made. But I returned to them in the last couple of months, I'm not sure why, and have now done 10 of the 12 (one for each degree of the chromatic scale). They seemed, somehow, a more serious enterprise this time - if a 5 part fugue in C sharp major sounds good and even beautiful, even perhaps moving, then what does it matter that the subject chosen is from Black Lace's Agadoo. And what does it mean? It left me thinking all sorts of odd things! I'm a little stalled on numbers 10 and 11, but I can't wait to have them done. Hopefully they will bring a few smiles to a few faces....

That. Sounds. Awesome. !.
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

Luke

A taster. Fugue on two frog-related subjects. You get the idea....


Luke


Luke

and another....

Luke

another, this one enacting exactly the kind of mechanical procedures the subject suggests....

Luke

this is the 12th and last one, again appropriately enough, given the subject. Quite like the chromatically meandering last page, over that descending bass....the countersubject is, of course, a nod to Bach...

Luke

What the hell, have the Agadoo one too!