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PerfectWagnerite

Once again, this:


Maybe the Nazi's banned this opera for good reasons. It is pretty obscene with it's mixture of adultery, resurrection, and quasi-Virgin Mary/Jesus Christ reference with some transfiguration thrown in for good measure at the end. The plot is absolutely horrendous and makes no sense at all. I think opera companies are probably wise these days not to touch this work wearing rubber gloves with a 10 foot pole.

The music is gorgeous though.

Harry

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on June 20, 2007, 07:25:16 AM
Once again, this:


Maybe the Nazi's banned this opera for good reasons.


Maybe the Nazi's banned this for good reason?
Are you out of you mind saying such a thing like that?

Harry

Akira Ifukube.

Ritmica Ostinata for Piano and Orchestra.

Ekatarina Saranceva, Piano.
Russian PO/Dmitry Yablonski.


Minimalistic composition, very well done, quite interesting, and very good recorded.

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Harry on June 20, 2007, 07:28:46 AM
Maybe the Nazi's banned this for good reason?
Are you out of you mind saying such a thing like that?

Have you heard the work?

The Nazi's banned many artists' works because the artists were of Jewish heritage. But in this case I can see this work getting censored in a lot of places. It makes Salome seem like it was written for kingdergarten students.

Harry

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on June 20, 2007, 07:41:54 AM
Have you heard the work?

The Nazi's banned many artists' works because the artists were of Jewish heritage. But in this case I can see this work getting censored in a lot of places. It makes Salome seem like it was written for kingdergarten students.

Yes I have heard it.
I know the Nazis banned a lot of music, but that's not the point!
The point being you saying that maybe the nazis were right banning this music.
There is nothing in which the nazis were right, I hope you understand that.

Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: Lilas Pastia on June 19, 2007, 03:08:35 PM
Thanks, Sarge! I've always seen the Klemperer as part of his whole Mozart output. That particular disc sure interests me, the 29th is my favourite pre-38 symphony. Is it as good as the 25th?

It's very different. It was recorded in 1966 when Klemp was older and slowing down. This is closer in style to Böhm but with stronger accents. The sound is gorgeous; you can hear much detail. The divided violins pay dividends.

Drama is played down in the first movement (relative to someone like Harnoncourt): Klemp's all sunny and pleasant, and very lazy ;D  The slow movement, like 25, is fairly swift. The final movement observes the spirito marking and its thrilling. The horns are quite prominent and really rasp!

You didn't ask but I'll tell you anyway: I think this CD is worth having just for the eight and a half minute Adagio and Fugue K.546.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Harry

Akira Ifukube.

Symphonic Fantasia No. 1.

Russian PO/Yablonsky


Fascinating piece, great music.

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Harry on June 20, 2007, 07:46:18 AM
Yes I have heard it.
I know the Nazis banned a lot of music, but that's not the point!
The point being you saying that maybe the nazis were right banning this music.
There is nothing in which the nazis were right, I hope you understand that.

I don't need to be lectured on what I understand and what I don't understand. All I said was I can understand if the Nazi's, or anybody else banned this music I can see their line of reasoning.

Stop trying to read between my lines and trying to intimate that I condone one iota what the Nazis did. So from my screen-name you automatically assume that I, a Wagner fan, am a Nazi lover right?

Haffner

Quote from: Harry on June 20, 2007, 07:46:18 AM

There is nothing in which the nazis were right, I hope you understand that.




I'm not sure he meant it that way, Harry.



I pray even for those whom hated themselves enough to follow such a horrible, despicable doctrine. As atrocious as the nazis were, they were misguided and desperate people whom didn't really know love. That type of condition still exists in the world today, under so many monikers.


Listening to: Alfred Newman's excellent soundtrack to "Song of Bernadette".

















Harry

Ferruccio Busoni.

Clarinet Chamber Music.

Suite for Clarinet and SQ.
Intro par Spohr e.
Elegio di H.W. Ernst for Clarinet and SQ.
Abendlied.
8 Character Pieces for Clarinet and Piano.
Elegie for Clarinet and Piano.
Sonata for Clarinet and Piano.
Duo for two Flutes with Piano.

Dieter Klocker, Clarinet.
Werner Genuit, Piano.
Consortium Classicum.

Fairly unknown music from this composer, and it should not be that way, for it is beautiful to listen at. Dieter Klocker and his band make it a feast, and the recording made by Ekkehard Stoffregen is fabulous.

Harry

Quote from: Haffner on June 20, 2007, 07:55:58 AM



I'm not sure he meant it that way, Harry.



Then he should think better, before writing something down like this.

BachQ

Quote from: Harry on June 20, 2007, 08:16:39 AM
Ferruccio Busoni.

Clarinet Chamber Music.

Suite for Clarinet and SQ.

When I think of "clarinet," the first thing that comes to mind is BUSONI ........

pjme

Well, I understand..but this sentence : Maybe the Nazi's banned this opera for good reasons can (has) give(n) occasion to misunderstanding. You cleared it up. That's OK.

I bought Heliane some years ago and find the libretto also "gauche",(even silly at times), written in an all-too-elated-mystico-religious style (ca1920) that is very strange to us. But more shocking than Salome?

We've been offered " hotter" stuff !!

Peter

rubio

This CD is nice to listen to after a hard days work, and this Shostakovich even my wife can enjoy.  :)

"One good thing about music, when it hits- you feel no pain" Bob Marley

Papy Oli

J.S. Bach
Cantatas BWV 16 / 170 / 133

Off the Bach Edition  / Brilliant

:)
Olivier

Valentino

Michelangeli ;D

Ok, the Ravel PC.



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beclemund




After two weeks of waiting, Celi's Bruckner box set finally arrived... so far I have only had time to take in the Mass in F and the 3rd symphony, but I am enjoying them both immensely. Fine playing, terrific live recorded sound (even the cough at 11'44 into the first movement was crisp and clear! ;)) and gorgeously, broad tempos. This is sure to become one of my favorite Bruckner 3rds.
"A guilty conscience needs to confess. A work of art is a confession." -- Albert Camus


Sergeant Rock

Quote from: beclemund on June 20, 2007, 01:16:38 PM


After two weeks of waiting, Celi's Bruckner box set finally arrived... so far I have only had time to take in the Mass in F and the 3rd symphony, but I am enjoying them both immensely. Fine playing, terrific live recorded sound (even the cough at 11'44 into the first movement was crisp and clear! ;)) and gorgeously, broad tempos. This is sure to become one of my favorite Bruckner 3rds.

Whew....we Celi cheerleaders can breathe easier now. 8) I'm really glad you like what you've heard so far. The big test, though, is the Eighth. That separates the men from the boys.  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"