La Clarinette Basse

Started by snyprrr, October 28, 2010, 08:10:24 AM

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snyprrr

Anyone care to talk about the bass clarinet repertoire? I was just wondering when this instrument actually emerged from the background. Of the top of my head, I can't think of any 'point-to-this' piece, other than Dialogue de l'Ombre Double by Boulez. It's from 1985, so, I'm wondering if that's when the b-cl became 'cool?

Is there a first bass clarinet concerto?



I seem to have little pieces strewn throughout the post-'60s-'70s section of my Library: Marc Monnet, Xenakis, Donatoni, Dusapin,... the usual type suspects. Perhaps Karl has a piece? (yes, yes, I know,...however, maybe we could use some more solo bass clarinet pieces ;D)

I really enjoy Echange (1989) by Xenakis, a bass clarinet concerto of immense cosmic darkness. I think it is certainly his darkest work, along with Horos and a couple of the last pieces.

Feldman has Bass Clarinet & Percussion (1979), short for him @20mins.

Isn't there a DG/Stockhausen disc for bass clarinet?

Obviously, Scelsi's Maknongan has some b-cl recordings.

Donatoni, Dusapin, Proeve,... I'm sure the list goes on and on. As far as players, all I can think of are Damiens and Lowenstern. Karl, is this your bag?

Cato? (or was it Catison?)

karlhenning

La clarinette (just saying).

I do have a piece for bass clarinet & percussion, Angular Whimsies (Heavy Paint Manipulation).  Still hoping for a performance.

Brahmsian

Love the sound bass clarinet.  I am hoping my wife takes it up again (she played it and loved it in high school).

Bass clarinet, along the viola, are my favorite outcasts of classical instruments!  :D

karlhenning

Hm, a bass clarinet and viola duet would be sweet.

Florestan

Wasn't Mozart's Concerto originally written for the bass clarinet?
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

karlhenning


Brahmsian

Quote from: Florestan on October 28, 2010, 09:08:09 AM
Wasn't Mozart's Concerto originally written for the bass clarinet?

Interesting.  I didn't even know the bass clarinet existed in Mozart's time.

springrite

I have a CD of bass clarinet music, all 20th century stuff that's lovely. I need to dig that one out for a spin.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Florestan

Quote from: ChamberNut on October 28, 2010, 09:10:44 AM
Interesting.  I didn't even know the bass clarinet existed in Mozart's time.
Actually I think I've even heard a bass clarinet version. I'll dig it out asap and post it here.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Brahmsian

Quote from: Florestan on October 28, 2010, 09:12:03 AM
Actually I think I've even heard a bass clarinet version. I'll dig it out asap and post it here.

Oooh, yes please do!  That would something very worthy to hear.

karlhenning

No, Mozart did not write it for a bass clarinet, but a clarinet with an extended low range, dubbed a "basset clarinet" (cf. basset horn).

karlhenning

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 28, 2010, 09:08:53 AM
Woof!

(Sorry — had to!)


Gosh, my silly post made more sense when Andrei's post read basset . . . .

Brahmsian

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 28, 2010, 09:13:50 AM
"basset clarinet" (cf. basset horn).

Sometimes, close enough doesn't count.  Case in point:

;D


Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 28, 2010, 09:13:50 AM
No, Mozart did not write it for a bass clarinet, but a clarinet with an extended low range, dubbed a "basset clarinet" (cf. basset horn).
Yes, "basset" is what I meant...

Damn Youtube for their copyright policy --- they have removed the only basset version I've ever heard.  ;D Sorry, Ray...
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Brahmsian

Quote from: Florestan on October 28, 2010, 09:20:43 AM
Yes, "basset" is what I meant...

Damn Youtube for their copyright policy --- they have removed the only basset version I've ever heard.  ;D Sorry, Ray...

Aw schucks.  Oh well, it wasn't meant to be.  :(  Maybe a bass clarinettist will be ambitious and record Brahms' sublime clarinet works.  :D

Florestan

Quote from: ChamberNut on October 28, 2010, 09:23:13 AM
Aw schucks.  Oh well, it wasn't meant to be.  :(  Maybe a bass clarinettist will be ambitious and record Brahms' sublime clarinet works.  :D
Yeah, I'd be curious as well, only in this case it wouldn't be the original, as they were written for "Fraulein Klarinette".   :)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

listener

nice collection on Channel Classics CCD 026
Schoeck, Othmar
Heucke, Stefan
Hindemith, Paul
Sluka, Lubos
Rehak, Václav
Söll, Burkhardt
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some guy

Well, it wasn't "of course" for me. And so I thank you very much for bringing this guy to my attention.

Bass clarinet has long been one of my favorite instruments, and Harry's discography looks very tasty indeed!