Handel vs. Elgar death match

Started by M forever, July 11, 2007, 06:19:09 AM

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Who was the greatest English composer ever?

George Frederic Handel
15 (34.9%)
Boy George
15 (34.9%)
Andrew Lloyd Webber
0 (0%)
Charles Ives
8 (18.6%)
Edward Elgar
5 (11.6%)

Total Members Voted: 22

not edward

Quote from: Mark on July 11, 2007, 08:25:08 AM
Karl Jenkins? Does his output count as classical music?
I think it counts as 'output.' :D
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

knight66

Quote from: Mark on July 11, 2007, 08:25:08 AM
Karl Jenkins? Does his output count as classical music?

Some of it is on the cusp and he has a mass called The Armed Man. I am going to have the honour of singing in it in the Autumn. It sounds exactly like film music suitable for the Kingdom of Heaven flick.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Mark

Quote from: edward on July 11, 2007, 08:28:33 AM
I think it counts as 'output.' :D

Going for the hattrick - that's my third 'Post of Today' :D

Mark

Quote from: knight on July 11, 2007, 08:29:35 AM
Some of it is on the cusp and he has a mass called The Armed Man. I am going to have the honour of singing in it in the Autumn. It sounds exactly like film music suitable for the Kingdom of Heaven flick.

Mike

The only part of that which I enjoy, Mike, is the rather moving/weepie (ideal cinematic scoring) Benedictus.

Tancata

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Quote from: knight on July 11, 2007, 08:29:35 AM
Some of it is on the cusp and he has a mass called The Armed Man. I am going to have the honour of singing in it in the Autumn. It sounds exactly like film music suitable for the Kingdom of Heaven flick.

Mike

Karl Jenkins is alright. In the rankings he comes just between Donovan and Rolf Harris.

karlhenning

Quote from: edward on July 11, 2007, 08:28:33 AM
I think it counts as 'output.' :D

As opposed to Lloyd Wwebber and Rutter ('throughput')

springrite

Quote from: edward on July 11, 2007, 08:28:33 AM
I think it counts as 'output.' :D

Well, lots of things can be considered "outputs", I am reminded as I just returned from the smallest room in my house.

knight66

Quote from: Tancata on July 11, 2007, 08:35:44 AM
Karl Jenkins is alright. In the rankings he comes just between Donovan and Rolf Harris.

Ah, so between Mellow Yellow and Jake the Peg..........diddle iddle iddle um. Not quite a rock and a hard place.

He is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, Adiamus was catchy.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Tancata

Quote from: knight on July 11, 2007, 08:59:45 AM
Ah, so between Mellow Yellow and Jake the Peg..........diddle iddle iddle um. Not quite a rock and a hard place.

He is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, Adiamus was catchy.

Mike

Heh, well I have nothing against any of those three. I am pretty well-disposed towards Jenkins because the various choirs in Dublin which used to have to rely on a week of Messiahs as a money-spinner can now mix it up a little with the Armed Man or the Requiem. The Dies Irae from the Requiem is pretty cool - it seems to be based on "Tainted Love" and elderly choristers always have trouble with keeping time  8).

The Mad Hatter

*wonders where Orlando Gibbons and William Byrd are...*

*wonders where all these 'vs' threads are coming from...*

*wonders how his brain is still working at all...*

Que

#30
I have ab-so-lu-te-ly nothing with English composers - nada - ZIP.
Don't know why, maybe they are from another planet than I am.

BTW,  I don't consider Händel an English composer, and I do like Purcell - a bit - but that's about it. ;D

Q

PSmith08

Quote from: Tancata on July 11, 2007, 09:08:40 AMThe Dies Irae from the Requiem is pretty cool - it seems to be based on "Tainted Love" and elderly choristers always have trouble with keeping time  8).

There's a phrase, the juxtapositions of which being novel, that no-one ever even thought about seeing coming. 

karlhenning

Just wait until the Dale Warland Singers recording of Missa Love me do is at last released.

Choo Choo

Quote from: knight on July 11, 2007, 08:59:45 AM
Ah, so between Mellow Yellow and Jake the Peg..........diddle iddle iddle um. Not quite a rock and a hard place.

I take it, you are not dissing the Rolf-meister?  Not after his performance of Led Zep's Stairway To Heaven (complete with wobble board) at Glastonbury?  Incredible (in every sense)  ;D

Mark

Quote from: karlhenning on July 11, 2007, 08:37:16 AM
As opposed to Lloyd Wwebber and Rutter ('throughput')

Applause, please, for Dr. Henning. ;D

karlhenning


knight66

Quote from: Choo Choo on July 11, 2007, 09:18:17 AM
I take it, you are not dissing the Rolf-meister?  Not after his performance of Led Zep's Stairway To Heaven (complete with wobble board) at Glastonbury?  Incredible (in every sense)  ;D

His theme song ought to be 'I will survive' An institution in his quaint way.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Bonehelm

Handel, just because Beethoven said so.

karlhenning

Oh, don't go there.

We'll just get a fresh spate of "If Beethoven had known Elgar, he would have licked the Elgarian bootlaces" . . . .

Scriptavolant

That topic surprizes me, since I'm the greatest british composer ever and I thought this was undisputed too  ???