Ottevanger's Omphaloskeptic Outpost

[springrite]

Party in the Outpost!

Tea Party? I will provide the Pu'er and Oolong.

[Luke]

  

Really looking forward to reading Cato's thoughts on Around Fern Hill. Doubtless they will be the usual model of insight, and will show the composer things about his piece which he only half-knew were there in the first place. I can't wait! (And Cato, I will get a reply off to your email as soon as I can find the opportunity to write something worthy of it).

It's great to have some activity round here, so by all means, party on. I remember the days, many years ago it seems now, when this thread was the forum for some memorable debate and faux-flaming. *Sigh* Any such partying at the moment is a little retrospective, what with my sluggish/non-existent production at the moment, but I'd still love to see it!

Am trying to upload The Lamb - have been trying for days - but mediafire is not....erm...firing on my computer t present. Not sure why. Will keep on trying. May well not be worth the wait anyway. The piece is uber-sweet, and the performance very imperfect.

[Karl Henning]

Even the flame-wars here are good fun.

[Cato]

Really looking forward to reading Cato's thoughts on Around Fern Hill. Doubtless they will be the usual model of insight,

Well, I hope so!  The pressure is on!      

This is my last week at school before the vacation, and so grades and other silly things (Kafkaesque "paperwork") - along with packing my materials so the room can be remodeled - are waiting for me.

(And Cato, I will get a reply off to your email as soon as I can find the opportunity to write something worthy of it).

Some people are just too modest!   0:)

[Jo re mi]

Well I'm disappointed that my last attempt to post to this thread never made it through the mystery moderator but very pleased that since then Luke has posted again. This is now where I will come for updates on my brother's activities!
I can't contribute anything insightful but I do love Around Fern Hill. Aren't there couple of other pieces you're still hiding under that large bushell of yours, Luke? (hi by the way )

[Karl Henning]

Tea Party? I will provide the Pu'er and Oolong.

Excellent!

Back to the music . . . my Archos tablet can be something of a mystery.  I downloaded all the files successfully;  then, I wanted to move them from the Download folder, to a, well, less apparently temporary folder.  And I thought I was managing to do that "on screen" (as opposed to a drag-&-drop via the USB tether, which is my normal MO. And now . . . I've "lost" them!

Well, just now trying to download afresh.

[Karl Henning]

Success anew!

[Karl Henning]

 

Really looking forward to reading Cato's thoughts on Around Fern Hill. Doubtless they will be the usual model of insight, and will show the composer things about his piece which he only half-knew were there in the first place. I can't wait! (And Cato, I will get a reply off to your email as soon as I can find the opportunity to write something worthy of it).

It's great to have some activity round here, so by all means, party on. I remember the days, many years ago it seems now, when this thread was the forum for some memorable debate and faux-flaming. *Sigh* Any such partying at the moment is a little retrospective, what with my sluggish/non-existent production at the moment, but I'd still love to see it!

Am trying to upload The Lamb - have been trying for days - but mediafire is not....erm...firing on my computer t present. Not sure why. Will keep on trying. May well not be worth the wait anyway. The piece is uber-sweet, and the performance very imperfect.

This here Archos tablet . . . chances are, if I had bought it with the intention of using at as a tablet, this is one of the oddities which would annoy me . . . but as I fetched it in essentially as an mp3 player, it turns out that I am actually yet better pleased that at times it does more . . .

. . . the point being, that at Media Fire, I've generally needed to try a second time in order to download the files, but (both days) I succeeded all right at last.

The tune that breaks out in the Fantasy at around the five-minute mark has (not all that rare, I suppose) striking family resemblance to the tune "Danby," which fixed me with its glittering eye some years ago.

Probably not a genuinely helpful comment, but . . . I've enjoyed listening to both performances, both for the pieces themselves, and for the sense of being vicariously present at an Ottevangeriad.  Bring on some more!

[Luke]

Thanks for your persistence, Karl! You are absolutely right about the family resemblance between these folksongs - even amongst the few that I used for the Fantasy, how many begin with a rising fourth and a further ascent up the scale (The Seeds of Love; O Waly Waly; Searching for Lambs; Arise arise (sort of)...) This was one of the factors I used to help 'hang' the piece, in fact, with two of the G major numbers framing it and using the same techinique of motive derivation, and the third G major number coming at the end of the first half, before the optional cadenza, all three songs sharing not just key but motivic shapes. It's an odd piece, the Fantasy - in an approximation of RVW's words, I don't know if I like it, but it's what I meant. As I said before, in my mind it is a sister piece to my Nightingale Sonata, in many ways (use of folksong being only the most obvious and to me not necessarily the most important)

Well I'm disappointed that my last attempt to post to this thread never made it through the mystery moderator but very pleased that since then Luke has posted again. This is now where I will come for updates on my brother's activities!
I can't contribute anything insightful but I do love Around Fern Hill. Aren't there couple of other pieces you're still hiding under that large bushell of yours, Luke? (hi by the way )

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Wotcha, brother mine. What desperation brings you here? What a dubious pleasant surprise! Everything under my capacious bushel that can be uploaded is uploaded, somewhere on this thread, but you're right, perhaps I should relink/reupload some stuff at some point. Some of it was put up years ago. What would you recommend? As you only listen to the music of Luke Ottevanger, apparently, you must know my oeuvre better than I do myself! I think I should perhaps post a worklist or something...

BTW, will try to call you tonight/tomorrow. Meant to do so a couple of nights ago but you know how it is...especially with me.  Also BTW, if you have texted me recently - my mobile has been untrustworthy and highly selective in what it thinks I should see ever since (true story) I dove into a raging torrent to rescue a drowning child a couple of weekends ago, phone still in pocket (well, the bit about it raging may be pushing it - swirling sluggishly may be more accurate).

[Gurn Blanston]

Luke,
Just an ease of use sort of suggestion; put everything that you want to share on mediafire into one folder there, and then share the single link for that folder. It stays the same, so in future, anytime you upload something new into that folder, you can simply announce it, with perhaps another copy of the link for stragglers... easy is good.

[Luke]

Luke,
Just an ease of use sort of suggestion; put everything that you want to share on mediafire into one folder there, and then share the single link for that folder. It stays the same, so in future, anytime you upload something new into that folder, you can simply announce it, with perhaps another copy of the link for stragglers... easy is good.

Thanks Gurn. That's sort of what I did in the past IIRC, then just adding new hyperlinks as the folder grew. Over the years though, for whatever reason, the number of folders I was uploading to grew too, and no doubt some of them are now obsolete. I imagine that if you tried to follow the links on the first page of this thread, for instance, few of them would work. So it would be a good idea to start again, and perhaps I will do that. I'm having big trouble getting Mediafire to work at the moment, however - can't upload a single thing, not even a piddlingly small PDF. Maybe I will try 4shared or somewhere like that...

[Jo re mi]

Well I do only listen to the music of Luke Ottevanger but I turn the volume right down 

From what I remember, though, and indeed have on tape & CD, there may be other treasures you've not yet shared. I'm just steeling myself to wade through 100+ pages of this thread to see what you've uploaded over the last 6 years... Did you put up all the lovely things you did for the squids? And your various Christmas pieces?

Perhaps we should do a Kickstarter thing, though, and see if this select and illustrious crew will stump up for my wedding piece to be performed, perhaps for its 20th anniversary in a few years' time. I know I won't, though I'd chuck in a fiver for a laugh 

By the way, I keep meaning to give you some of yer actual folk choons to listen to but fail. You could do worse than checking out the live set referred to in the comments here http://weirdbrother.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/28-power-of-true-love-knot-shirley.html (and of course the main LP). Needless to say I've not listened to it myself.

Call me, I want to hear more about your acts of heroism and snort in derision at your excuses, as per 

[Karl Henning]

Ah, the snorts of derisive siblings ... quite brings me back....

[Jo re mi]

well Luke can tell you, they've always been in vogue in the Ottevanger family

Please to meet you by the way, Karl 

[Karl Henning]

Pleased, likewise!

My suggestion was unfair to my numerous siblings, BTW: none of them have ever treated me with derision : )

[Luke]

Well, this is most surreal. When worlds collide....

Mr Mi (or is it Mr Re Mi?), the Christmas things are up somewhere, yes. Guido particularly liked them. A man of discernment, our Guido. But the kids' lullabies aren't up though - they don't 'count'! Though IIRC I mentioned them as I composed them. They spurred me on to writing another Lullaby (A Lullaby to Silence) which is up, I think. But it's a long time ago now, back in 2006 as far as I remember....

A GMG-sponsored performance of Ophruoeis, you say? Well, as you know, it nearly happened back in 97. If only it hadn't been so irresponsibly-scored... But I have to say (and though I wrote it for you and the missus) I've done better. A link to the score of Ophruoeis is somewhere hidden on this thread too, I think.  And the equally-ridiculous Processional (which is the one I wrote a couple of years later for the nuptials of Arsey Ottevanger, our beloved sister) - score up here too.

Karl. I always imagined gentle derision was the very essence of fraternity. You mean it can be otherwise? 

[Jo re mi]

Well mate I'm just dropping in since you're so damned hard to get hold of, and since you showed me where to find you... On the whole I won't have an awful lot to contribute, my general MO might be lurking.

Did you put up anything from your Kings days? Four Paz Songs? Your string quartet? Or the pieces performed at the SNM or whatever it was called way back when? I can't recall if that was recorded, I think it was complicated.

Incidentally, these folks look interesting: http://musikfabrik.eu/en/homepage.html For some reason they started following me on Twitter and I reciprocated, they seem to have a healthy programme of new commissions. Just sayin'. Oh, and they're in Cologne, like Irish Jan

[Luke]

The Paz Songs are up, always were - as I said, everything that can be up is. The Quartet was never recorded, which might be for the best (I have the parts somewhere but not the score, it would be some work to reconstruct the piece and not really worth it, I think). The performances of that Horn/String Trio piece which you are probably thinking of with 'SNM' (do you mean SPNM? I don't think it was an SPNM thing, though it was a BMIC one, but hey, they're all acronyms) were not recorded either.  I don't even have the score to that piece, it disappeared with the conductor after the second performance (which I couldn't get to). But again I'm a bit relieved - as far as I remember, that piece was not too hot. The composer Alan Bullard was at the first performance in the Purcell Rooms and was complimentary about it...but I'm not sure why!

Anyway, it's nice to have you around my thread! You should start your own one so that everyone else could hear all about Irish Jan.... 

[Karl Henning]

Cool! Cato's in the Outpost!

[Karl Henning]

Uh-oh! Did my post queer his toggle?