The i-Deals Incident

[Mirror Image]

Frustrations? About what?  A company made a mistake of which they have let you profit from BIG time!

Shouldn't you just be happy with whatever you got out of this?? You act being disadvantaged and wronged, but you are not.
You got incredibly lucky, profiting of a mishap of which you already knew all to well that it might be the case.

I know I have been lucky - my single order got shipped. 

Although my advantage is modest since I still had to pay for shipping to Europe and I didn't have the chance to do more orders (the store closed at that time), I am not frustrated. 0:)

Q

I was frustrated but I'm not anymore. You're right though, I'm quite lucky they shipped some of my orders.

[Que]

I was frustrated but I'm not anymore. You're right though, I'm quite lucky they shipped some of my orders.

I noted and was simultaneously editing my post. Happy listening hours with all the new stuff.

Q

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I noted and was simultaneously editing my post. Happy listening hours with all the new stuff.

Q

Thank you, Q.

[bigshot]

That would a touch choice because there are so many I cherish. One that springs instantly to mind is Bernstein's 1979 Live in Japan performance of Shostakovich's Symphony No. 5.

I have the DVD set of live Bernstein. Is that in the set?

[Mirror Image]

I have the DVD set of live Bernstein. Is that in the set?

Yes, it's just a recording of that concert. I, too, have that DVD. The CD sounds much better though IMHO as it's been remastered.

[Karl Henning]

This genuinely made me laugh.  A person sees the words "In Stock" on a computer screen from half a world away and takes this as conclusive proof that the disc is in fact sitting in the warehouse.

Wait a minute -- are you suggesting that there is such a thing as real life which is not with cimplete accuracy rendered in pixels on my monitor?

Are you saying . . . the computer is just a tool, and there are real people out there, somewhere? . . .

[Karl Henning]

Such a thing doesn't exist because such a thing would never work and be effective, as evidenced by what followed by my "moderation".

I thought that your brief turn as a mod, Paul, was good, disinterested and impartial. You were "just" a sub but, dammit, this isn't the mickey-mouse NFL . . . .

[ibanezmonster]

I mean I've never seen something like this happen online but twice so far. I've seen Naxos of America mark CDs down this low, but theirs seemed like it wasn't error and they were truly having a sale.

I know one case that was definitely an error. 
Brian was the one who discovered this... they had a few sets of British assorted composers' works (~25 CDs each), and I ordered two of them. Originally, each set was around $100, if I remember right. They had them marked down to $6 each.

Luckily, I got them. But with crazy stuff like the i-Deals stuff, I wonder if they would have gone out of business (or almost gone out of business) if they honored their orders. That would be a loss of many thousands of dollars (though I have no clue how big i-Deals is). I still almost can't believe Naxos honored my order  .

[DavidRoss]

Thank you and I apologize for my boorish behavior tonight. I suppose more than anything I was just venting my frustrations over this mess, but I shouldn't even let it bother me, because, in the end, it has no significance on my life whatsoever.

Way to go, John! Don't beat yourself up over it, just learn from it and move on. You were caught in the grip of some all-too-common human failings, like greed,  pride, gluttony and lust (for CDs!). What's wonderful is that you've recognized it and decided you're better than that: you'd rather be a Mensch than a Schmuck!

Congratulations and welcome to the human race.

BTW, we all make mistakes, and we all let our "dark side" get the upper hand occasionally. What separates the men from the boys is what we do about it afterwards. Do we fess up and change our behavior? Or do we deny responsibility and point the finger elsewhere? You just fessed up. And that's what responsible grown-ups who are worthy of others' trust and respect do.

And happy responsible grown-ups focus on their blessings -- such as the CDs they have, the ears to hear them, the heart to enjoy the music, and the friends to multiply their pleasure with -- instead of focusing on unfulfilled wants and selling out to the grasping, fearful egos that battle with our souls.

Cheers, dude!

[Karl Henning]

BTW, we all make mistakes . . . .

I thought I had, once. But I was mistaken.

[springrite]

I thought I had, once. But I was mistaken.

Logically, either way, you did once.

[Karl Henning]

Or is it the equivalent of a mathematical double-negative — -1.5 X -3 = +4.5 — and there is no mistake?

Soon I'll be contesting debate rules almost as frequently as the former Governor . . . .

[Scarpia]

Or is it the equivalent of a mathematical double-negative — -1.5 X -3 = +4.5 — and there is no mistake?

Soon I'll be contesting debate rules almost as frequently as the former Governor . . . .

It is the verb tense that evaded the paradox.

"We all make mistakes.

I thought I had once, but I was mistaken."

As Paul said, on January 1, 1970 you thought you had made a mistake but were mistaken.  You were free of mistakes until January 1, 1970, then made one.

The thing you are searching for is "this statement is false."

[Madiel]

Wait a minute -- are you suggesting that there is such a thing as real life which is not with cimplete accuracy rendered in pixels on my monitor?

Are you saying . . . the computer is just a tool, and there are real people out there, somewhere? . . .

I repent. Such suggestions on a message board are clearly blasphemous.

[Karl Henning]

The thing you are searching for is "this statement is false."

♫ I haven't been searchin' so long . . . .

[Mirror Image]

Way to go, John! Don't beat yourself up over it, just learn from it and move on. You were caught in the grip of some all-too-common human failings, like greed,  pride, gluttony and lust (for CDs!). What's wonderful is that you've recognized it and decided you're better than that: you'd rather be a Mensch than a Schmuck!

Congratulations and welcome to the human race.

BTW, we all make mistakes, and we all let our "dark side" get the upper hand occasionally. What separates the men from the boys is what we do about it afterwards. Do we fess up and change our behavior? Or do we deny responsibility and point the finger elsewhere? You just fessed up. And that's what responsible grown-ups who are worthy of others' trust and respect do.

And happy responsible grown-ups focus on their blessings -- such as the CDs they have, the ears to hear them, the heart to enjoy the music, and the friends to multiply their pleasure with -- instead of focusing on unfulfilled wants and selling out to the grasping, fearful egos that battle with our souls.

Cheers, dude!

Thanks, Dave. After look over some of my posts from last night, I was quite disgusted with many of the things I wrote here. But I'm not going to sit around beating myself up about it, which would be even more detrimental than being a greedy jerk. So yes, I've learned that when I see something that is too good to be true, in most cases, it is. Thank you and thanks to everybody else here for being so understanding. I'm feeling much better now.

[springrite]

I'm feeling much better now.

I can tell just by looking at Shostakovich and I see the difference.

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I can tell just by looking at Shostakovich and I see the difference.

[TheGSMoeller]

I made some orders from I-Deals, had one cancelled and some sitting in limbo it seems. Although I would be disappointed if the transactions never occur, I certainly wouldn't be angry. We do all make mistakes. I've been working in the food/service industry for over a decade, talk about making mistakes, they occur more often than we would like, and sometimes it's not even due to our own actions but that of others (vendors, computers, equipment...) and all we ask, or hope for is that those we are serving can identify that it was an unforeseen error and that we are not proud of it. Those customers that recognize it are cherished, they understand and we always appreciate it. Of course those that don't recognize this, and remain upset and continue to vocalize their frustration, well, we may not like it, but we work our asses off even more to change those customers views.

It's obvious there was a computer glitch, or error with I-Deals. What surprises me is that the cancelation emails are claiming those items are out of stock, instead of what seems to be the truth. I will not be leaving them any negative comments, and more than likely will shop again with them, but there might always be tht little red flag, this unless something changes in the next few days.

I will, however, be leaving a negative comment to the MP who sold me a "very-good" used disc that had traces of sticky substances and scratches on both sides of the disc. I almost don't want to put the disc in my player. That to me, is worse than what I-Deals has done.


Happy Wednesday! 

[Karl Henning]

My one purchase (made before it was apparent there was a larger problem) has been cancelled. Per my earlier part of the discussion, I have no complaint.  I'll make a fresh purchase of the same item at the correct price from the same vendor.

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