Richard the Third; the King in the car-park.

Started by vandermolen, February 09, 2013, 05:21:34 AM

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vandermolen

I wonder if anyone else here has been following this extraordinary story. King Richard's remains have been located under a car park in Leicester. There was a fascinating TV documentary entitled 'The King in the car park' on Channel 4 (UK). It is on their iPlayer but probably only available from the UK.  Anyway, here is the news item:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21292381

The DNA test indicated that the skeleton (complete with curvature of the spine) was indeed that of the (possibly undeservedly) infamous king, killed at Bosworth in 1485.  An extraordinary archaelogical discovery.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Karl Henning

Wonderful story. Knew of it by the inevitable jokiness which would emerge on Facebook:
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Coopmv

Quote from: vandermolen on February 09, 2013, 05:21:34 AM
I wonder if anyone else here has been following this extraordinary story. King Richard's remains have been located under a car park in Leicester. There was a fascinating TV documentary entitled 'The King in the car park' on Channel 4 (UK). It is on their iPlayer but probably only available from the UK.  Anyway, here is the news item:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21292381

The DNA test indicated that the skeleton (complete with curvature of the spine) was indeed that of the (possibly undeservedly) infamous king, killed at Bosworth in 1485.  An extraordinary archaelogical discovery.

I have read an article that Shakespeare turned Richard III into a villain he really was not.  But Shakespeare was no different than today businessmen - he had to sell his stories ...

Szykneij

Did they make him pay the "lost ticket" rate when they dug him up?
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mahler10th

It is a real Castles and Battles story.  Skeletons, swords and power.  Here is a fascinating documentary on the naughty King...or was he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH7Nyx19amQ


Coopmv

Quote from: Szykneij on February 09, 2013, 10:44:52 AM
Did they make him pay the "lost ticket" rate when they dug him up?

I don't think any state funeral is being planned for the re-burial of his remains ...

vandermolen

Quote from: Coopmv on February 09, 2013, 12:20:56 PM
I don't think any state funeral is being planned for the re-burial of his remains ...

Yes, but there is now an argument between Leicester and York Minster over where Richard III should be (finally) buried.  Great stuff!
Thanks for replies.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Karl Henning

Anything like St Petersburg and Moscow differing over where to inter Lenin? ; )
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Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

mc ukrneal

Yes - been following it with interest. Fascinating story.
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Coopmv

Quote from: vandermolen on February 10, 2013, 12:47:52 AM
Yes, but there is now an argument between Leicester and York Minster over where Richard III should be (finally) buried.  Great stuff!
Thanks for replies.

Perhaps there has been a change of heart due to pressure from the public.  I do think his remains deserve a proper burial.  It also appears Shakespeare might have done a hatchet job on this man in order to sell his story, i.e. Richard III really was not such a villain afer all ...

Karl Henning

Quote from: Coopmv on February 10, 2013, 06:41:21 AM
Perhaps there has been a change of heart due to pressure from the public.  I do think his remains deserve a proper burial.  It also appears Shakespeare might have done a hatchet job on this man in order to sell his story, i.e. Richard III really was not such a villain afer all ...

To put it so does something of a hatchet job on Shakespeare, don't you think?  If Hitler had won, Churchill would have been a villain in German operas . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot