Frank Martin

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snyprrr

Quote from: The new erato on February 07, 2013, 03:26:44 AM
This seems wonderfully appropriate.

Boy, you DO pick up on things, haha!! ::)

betterthanfine

Quote from: pjme on February 07, 2013, 03:13:54 AM
For those who like Martin's music and happen to be in Amsterdam...On March 22nd and march 24th.
vhttp://www.concertgebouworkest.nl/nl/concerten/Programma/Golgotha-van-Frank-Martin/

My friend and I just bought tickets to this last night. Can't wait! :)

pjme

I won't be able to get there! Alas...

Golgotha is a wonderful and moving score. Excellent choice ..and a good thing for the Concertgebouw orchestra. They really should do Martin's Symphony again! Haitink did perform this exciting score ( two piano's in the orchestra) several years ago.

I'll be at the Concertgebouw for K.A.Hartmann's 8th symphony ( + Bruckner 9) on March 30th.
Peter


Daverz

I just got the Baiba Skride recording of the Violin Concerto and have listened to it several times now.  I'm a bit disappointed by how timid the orchestra seems to be.   Skride seems to play warmly.

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I also completely forgot that I had the old Louisville recording (Paul Kling, violin; Robert Whitney conducting).  Overall, I like this one a lot.  The sonics are congested and compressed, but still enjoyable, and the orchestra plays with character and color.  I also need to re-evaluate the Erxleben recording.

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snyprrr

Quote from: Daverz on March 01, 2013, 05:23:05 PM
I just got the Baiba Skride recording of the Violin Concerto and have listened to it several times now.  I'm a bit disappointed by how timid the orchestra seems to be.   Skride seems to play warmly.

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I also completely forgot that I had the old Louisville recording (Paul Kling, violin; Robert Whitney conducting).  Overall, I like this one a lot.  The sonics are congested and compressed, but still enjoyable, and the orchestra plays with character and color.  I also need to re-evaluate the Erxleben recording.

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I had a chance to get that ABC disc with Martin, Milhaud, & Barber VCs... have you heard that one yet?

springrite

Quote from: snyprrr on March 02, 2013, 07:16:02 AM
I had a chance to get that ABC disc with Martin, Milhaud, & Barber VCs... have you heard that one yet?

That is the one I have. Nice disc, but since I have nothing for comparative listening for the Milhaud and Martin, I can't say more than that.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

The new erato

There's a new disc with Martin's Cinderella on it (I've never heard of the work). Check my latest post in the Recordings you are considering thread.

springrite

Quote from: pjme on February 10, 2013, 12:46:18 PM
I won't be able to get there! Alas...

Golgotha is a wonderful and moving score. Excellent choice ..and a good thing for the Concertgebouw orchestra. They really should do Martin's Symphony again! Haitink did perform this exciting score ( two piano's in the orchestra) several years ago.

I'll be at the Concertgebouw for K.A.Hartmann's 8th symphony ( + Bruckner 9) on March 30th.
Peter
I have been considering Golgotha...
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Daverz

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Quote from: snyprrr on March 02, 2013, 07:16:02 AM
I had a chance to get that ABC disc with Martin, Milhaud, & Barber VCs... have you heard that one yet?

No, this is one of the 2 recordings that I don't have yet:

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Are there any others?

EDIT: there was a Szigeti recording from 1952 available on Music & Arts.


listener

Quote from: Daverz on March 02, 2013, 08:20:35 AM
No, this is one of the 2 recordings that I don't have yet:

Are there any others?
on vinyl: Candide 36 006   Schneiderhan, Wolfgang violin  Martin, Frank, cond.   Luxembourg Radio S.O,
"Keep your hand on the throttle and your eye on the rail as you walk through life's pathway."

Daverz

Quote from: listener on March 02, 2013, 12:16:43 PM
on vinyl: Candide 36 006   Schneiderhan, Wolfgang violin  Martin, Frank, cond.   Luxembourg Radio S.O,

Yeah, I have this one (2 copies!) as well as the CD issue.  As I said earlier, this is my standard for the work.

http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Martin-Violin-Concerto-Piano/dp/B000009IE7


jlaurson

Orchestral reticence or not (bothers me only in the Honegger, actually), Baiba Skride certainly adds considerably to the discography of that concerto.
I don't have Martin-Schneiderhan, only Ansermet?-Schneiderhan, but that's not that hot. The standout, which surprised me, after hearing a good deal of negative comments about it, is the MDG recording, which is a very hot tamale!

Daverz

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Quote from: jlaurson on March 02, 2013, 04:55:56 PM
Orchestral reticence or not (bothers me only in the Honegger, actually), Baiba Skride certainly adds considerably to the discography of that concerto.
I don't have Martin-Schneiderhan, only Ansermet?-Schneiderhan, but that's not that hot. The standout, which surprised me, after hearing a good deal of negative comments about it, is the MDG recording, which is a very hot tamale!

The orchestra and sonics on MDG are excellent -- no timidity or recessed balances here -- but the soloist is rather aloof. 

OK, after listening to the MDG -- which really has not much more going for it than smooth digital sound -- I listened to Skride again -- plodding and timid -- and then Schneiderhan/Martin.  There's no contest: neither of those performances come close to the passion and commitment of Schneiderhan/Martin. 

Mirror Image

I may have found my "key" into Martin's musical universe with his Cello Concerto (1966). A MusicWeb reviewer on the Christian Poltera recording said that he couldn't get into this concerto and I honestly don't see how anyone couldn't, especially if you've been exposed to a lot of the currents that flowed from 20th Century music. It's an ingenious mixture of Neoclassicism, Schoenbergian mystique, and contains whispers of hymn-like quietude as if it were written in a dying breath. Highly recommended. I'm sure the work has been discussed on this thread, but I would just to give this concerti a thumbs up. :)

snyprrr

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 06, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
I may have found my "key" into Martin's musical universe with his Cello Concerto (1966). A MusicWeb reviewer on the Christian Poltera recording said that he couldn't get into this concerto and I honestly don't see how anyone couldn't, especially if you've been exposed to a lot of the currents that flowed from 20th Century music. It's an ingenious mixture of Neoclassicism, Schoenbergian mystique, and contains whispers of hymn-like quietude as if it were written in a dying breath. Highly recommended. I'm sure the work has been discussed on this thread, but I would just to give this concerti a thumbs up. :)

It was the one new work I discovered that I liked as much as the Martin I do like. Watch out, though... like I said, it was the ONLY of his later works which I responded to. It has a completely different feel than a lot of Martin. You might like Ohana too.

Mirror Image

I'm treading carefully with Martin, synprrr, so don't worry. :) I think the MD&G recording of the Violin Concerto just turned me off completely, but I plan to revisit my Bamert recordings on Chandos. I remember really enjoying that Ballades recording. I've just got so much on my plate right now though. Some much music, so little time.

Mirror Image

In other news, I bought this recently:

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The only work I'm familiar with in this box set is In Terra Pax (a beautiful work), so I'm looking forward to hearing the much-discussed, and recorded, Golgotha. The work Pilate should be an interesting listen as well.

Anyone here own and have heard these performances from this set?

vandermolen

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In Terra Pax is my favourite work by Martin. I recently bought the fine old Ansermet recording which has been reissued by Decca in a set mainly devoted to Honegger.
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

snyprrr

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 06, 2013, 08:23:31 PM
I remember really enjoying that Ballades recording.

Single best Martin disc ever! ever ever ever

The definition of 'wan moonlight'

Mirror Image

Quote from: vandermolen on April 07, 2013, 01:04:33 AM
In Terra Pax is my favourite work by Martin. I recently bought the fine old Ansermet recording which has been reissued by Decca in a set mainly devoted to Honegger.
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I bought this set too. I'll have to dig it out and listen to the In Terra Pax performance. I remember Bamert's being quite good.