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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on June 04, 2013, 04:57:09 AM
Well, and as the notes do record:

Gosh, did he really cast the bible in lower case? I mean, a bible, maybe, but here it strikes me as bad tone and tendentious.

I don't know if he meant it that way, but I took it that way, not least because I do the same thing.... 0:)

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Karl Henning

I find that I now have . . . five recordings of Die Schöpfung . . . so for fun and all, I'm listening to Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes from each . . . .
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on June 04, 2013, 05:38:10 AM
I find that I now have . . . five recordings of Die Schöpfung . . . so for fun and all, I'm listening to Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes from each . . . .

Yes, that's the only way I was able to do anything comparative was to isolate 5 or 6 pieces and compare just those. Too hard to intimately compare 12 versions of an oratorio that size without becoming semi-suicidal. :)

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Karl Henning

Gurn, as ever, you have shown us the way : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quick back-of-the-envelope notes:

Like 'em all. Lenny in both cases has something of a "salon-ish" approach to the music, and some of his singers almost open the spitcocks overmuch, but . . . tastefully done, and never lacking energy.

Very pleased with our local boys; if pressed to select a favorite, I'd say the Boston Baroque tied with the McCreesh.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on June 04, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
Quick back-of-the-envelope notes:

Like 'em all. Lenny in both cases has something of a "salon-ish" approach to the music, and some of his singers almost open the spitcocks overmuch, but . . . tastefully done, and never lacking energy.

Very pleased with our local boys; if pressed to select a favorite, I'd say the Boston Baroque tied with the McCreesh.


Due to the quality of the singing on the BB performance, I would say that as a German/English pair, you could do way worse than that! Plus having the hometown favorites as a bonus.  :)

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Karl Henning

Taking the same tour with Holde Gattin, dir zur Seite . . . .
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Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

chasmaniac

Vollendet ist das große Werk!

Discuss.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: chasmaniac on June 04, 2013, 08:02:00 AM
Vollendet ist das große Werk!

Discuss.

Finished is the Glorious Work!  Considered by many to be the high point of the work. Hard to argue. Somewhere or other, I read that a lot of time in Britain they would end it there (after that little Gloria), as though there was no other reason to carry on after that. Maybe they were right, not being people people. :)

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Karl Henning

Quote from: chasmaniac on June 04, 2013, 08:02:00 AM
Vollendet ist das große Werk!

Discuss.

You're currently listening to something else . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

chasmaniac

The interspersal of solo bits between phases of the chorus is particularly attractive to me. Haven't heard many versions. The one between my ears is Karajan's.

Karl! Remember Edith asking Archie, "Do you thing I'm something special?", to which Archie replies, "Edith, you're something... else." That's what I'm listening to. :)

I think Cannonball Adderley had an album called that too. Ooops, off-topic!
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: chasmaniac on June 04, 2013, 10:00:34 AM
The interspersal of solo bits between phases of the chorus is particularly attractive to me. Haven't heard many versions. The one between my ears is Karajan's.

Karl! Remember Edith asking Archie, "Do you thing I'm something special?", to which Archie replies, "Edith, you're something... else." That's what I'm listening to. :)

I think Cannonball Adderley had an album called that too. Ooops, off-topic!

Actually, I think he was a Haydn descendant.... Haydn's nickname was actually 'Musketball', so the legend clearly grew.... :D

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chasmaniac

Greetings, Gurn (formerly Gurnatron) Blanston!

Proof of purchase: my last Joseph "Musketball" Haydn listens were last week, opp. 71 and 74, Lindsays.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: chasmaniac on June 04, 2013, 10:20:08 AM
Greetings, Gurn (formerly Gurnatron) Blanston!

Proof of purchase: my last Joseph "Musketball" Haydn listens were last week, opp. 71 and 74, Lindsays.

Back at'cha, Chas-man. Hope you enjoyed those quartets, I know I do. Long time gone, nice to see you back. :)

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Bogey

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 12, 2013, 08:02:46 AM
The Haydn/Mozart/Vanhal/Ditters Quartet...standing on the street corner (left click to enlarge).




Sarge

The Venue:

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Geo Dude

Any recommendations for late masses to complement the Weil set?

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Geo Dude on June 17, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
Any recommendations for late masses to complement the Weil set?

Lots of possibilities there, Geo. The Weil set strikes just the right tone for size of orchestra (they were premiered in a small chapel in Eisenstadt, not Winchester Cathedral!!), so almost anything else sounds larger. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing by any means, it all depends on what you like and expect.  :)

This is an especially good choice;



especially having the best Paukenmesse (Hob 9) and a great Nelson Mass (Hob 11). However, it does only have 4 of the 6 late masses, so if you are looking for all 6, you will still have to find a Theresienmesse and a Heiligmesse. Which is no problem, of course.




I like Gardiner's Heiligmesse (Hob 10).



And Pinnock's Theresienmesse is one of his finer efforts.



That said, an ideal complement, and far easier to obtain and more musically 'loaded up', is this high recommendation;


My opinion, of course. :)

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Karl Henning

A different angle on complement, if a somewhat 'bigger-band' (but a nice level of energy, by these ears) account:

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My natural inclination to leaner Haydn notwithstanding, I dig this box a lot.  Here, Lenny in NY serves up the Missa in tempore belli, Missa in angustiis, Harmoniemesse & Theresienmesse.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

kishnevi

Amens to both Harnoncourt and Naxos.

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