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TheGSMoeller

As I continue to survey and explore every possible recording of No.45, the one I consistently have a love/hate relationship with is Harnoncourt. I love the overall performance, the Vienna Concentus Musicus have a marvelous tone, from the intense F# minor opening to the sweet sound from the pair of solo violins in the end. But I keep getting jarred by the tempo choices of the minuett of the third mvt. and presto of the finale, it's as if Harnoncourt switched them, the minuett is tightly brisk while the finale begins more relaxed and smooth whereas most interpretations are the opposite, with that intensity of the opening returning in the finale. Although, Harnoncourt's finale does segue quite nicely into the adagio portion that follows and doesn't separate these two contrasting parts as much as others have, here the "farewell" adagio feels like an extension of the presto.
It's quite an interesting take, and one I'm beginning to warm up to more, certainly carries more style than say Mackerras/St Luke or Fisher.

-Haydn thought of the day, by Greg Moeller

Mandryka

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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 23, 2013, 10:11:14 AM
As I continue to survey and explore every possible recording of No.45, the one I consistently have a love/hate relationship with is Harnoncourt. I love the overall performance, the Vienna Concentus Musicus have a marvelous tone, from the intense F# minor opening to the sweet sound from the pair of solo violins in the end. But I keep getting jarred by the tempo choices of the minuett of the third mvt. and presto of the finale, it's as if Harnoncourt switched them, the minuett is tightly brisk while the finale begins more relaxed and smooth whereas most interpretations are the opposite, with that intensity of the opening returning in the finale. Although, Harnoncourt's finale does segue quite nicely into the adagio portion that follows and doesn't separate these two contrasting parts as much as others have, here the "farewell" adagio feels like an extension of the presto.
It's quite an interesting take, and one I'm beginning to warm up to more, certainly carries more style than say Mackerras/St Luke or Fisher.

-Haydn thought of the day, by Greg Moeller

I like that one. I also agree with you about  Mackerras, whose Haydn I've thought was uninteresting.

Scherchen's 45 is well worth hearing.  Vilnos Tatrai's CD of it too isn't bad, but I prefer Scherchen and Harnoncourt.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Brian

October new release

HAYDN, J.: Symphonies, Vol. 21 (Fey) - Nos. 99, 100   CD98.014   
L'incontro improvviso, Hob.Ia:6: Overture • Symphony No. 100 in G Major, Hob.I:100, "Military" • Symphony No. 99 in E-Flat Major, Hob.I:99   
Fey, Thomas - conductor / Heidelberg Symphony Orchestra


TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Brian on September 30, 2013, 09:31:27 AM
October new release

HAYDN, J.: Symphonies, Vol. 21 (Fey) - Nos. 99, 100   CD98.014   
L'incontro improvviso, Hob.Ia:6: Overture • Symphony No. 100 in G Major, Hob.I:100, "Military" • Symphony No. 99 in E-Flat Major, Hob.I:99   
Fey, Thomas - conductor / Heidelberg Symphony Orchestra

Ye-Haw!
Fey seems to be speeding up the releases.

Sending brain waves of thoughts to Fey ------- No.98 and 80 next please.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Brian on September 30, 2013, 09:31:27 AM
October new release

HAYDN, J.: Symphonies, Vol. 21 (Fey) - Nos. 99, 100   CD98.014   
L'incontro improvviso, Hob.Ia:6: Overture • Symphony No. 100 in G Major, Hob.I:100, "Military" • Symphony No. 99 in E-Flat Major, Hob.I:99   
Fey, Thomas - conductor / Heidelberg Symphony Orchestra

Bring on Le Chat!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

I need to get Hadyn out of the way of my Frenchy Thing! ;) :-*

Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: Brian on September 30, 2013, 09:31:27 AM
October new release

HAYDN, J.: Symphonies, Vol. 21 (Fey) - Nos. 99, 100   CD98.014   
L'incontro improvviso, Hob.Ia:6: Overture • Symphony No. 100 in G Major, Hob.I:100, "Military" • Symphony No. 99 in E-Flat Major, Hob.I:99   
Fey, Thomas - conductor / Heidelberg Symphony Orchestra

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 30, 2013, 10:06:59 AM
Sending brain waves of thoughts to Fey ------- No.98 and 80 next please.




The Cat!!!  Fey heard my prayers  8)

Sarge

P.S. Sorry, Greg, it was a close run thing (99 vs 98  :D )
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

jlaurson

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 30, 2013, 11:53:57 AM


The Cat!!!  Fey heard my prayers  8)

Sarge

P.S. Sorry, Greg, it was a close run thing (99 vs 98  :D )

On the front of the Cat, I have some hopes that a major concert venue might join the nicknaming of that work. Will keep you posted of the efforts to get the Meow out into the world!

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: jlaurson on September 30, 2013, 12:38:43 PM
On the front of the Cat, I have some hopes that a major concert venue might join the nicknaming of that work. Will keep you posted of the efforts to get the Meow out into the world!

I hope you can make that happen. You know, my earthly immortality depends on it. It will be the only thing I hope to accomplish in this life: a Wiki footnote on the origin of the nickname  :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

kishnevi

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 30, 2013, 11:53:57 AM




just a query; if he's grown big enough to be the same size as London Bridge (drinking Entdraughts, I assume), can he still be called "the Hobbit"?

Opus106

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on October 01, 2013, 06:30:04 AM
just a query; if he's grown big enough to be the same size as London Bridge (drinking Entdraughts, I assume), can he still be called "the Hobbit"?

Maybe it was the Tower Bridge which shrunk.
Regards,
Navneeth

Karl Henning

Twenty-seven clams?! I've pulled the trigger on the DRD box.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Quote from: karlhenning on October 02, 2013, 11:13:36 AM
Twenty-seven clams?! I've pulled the trigger on the DRD box.

Hi Karl, is that DRD steal-of-a-deal on period instruments or modern?  Or anyone else who would like to answer.   :)  Merci!

Karl Henning

I should guess the Stuttgarters are mods, Ray, but Davey and others can answer with more experience of this box  :)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Quote from: karlhenning on October 02, 2013, 11:28:03 AM
I should guess the Stuttgarters are mods, Ray, but Davey and others can answer with more experience of this box  :)

I just checked the details on the box.  Yes, you are correct, it is on modern instruments.

Opus106

Quote from: ChamberNut on October 02, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
I just checked the details on the box.  Yes, you are correct, it is on modern instruments.

Beware: there's a harpsichord among them! ;D
Regards,
Navneeth

Brahmsian

Quote from: Opus106 on October 02, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
Beware: there's a harpsichord among them! ;D

That's OK.  Harpsichord, I don't mind.  It's the thing between the modern piano and the harpsichord I don't like.  ;D  The pianoforte.  :blank:

Opus106

Regards,
Navneeth

Parsifal

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on October 01, 2013, 06:30:04 AM
just a query; if he's grown big enough to be the same size as London Bridge (drinking Entdraughts, I assume), can he still be called "the Hobbit"?

Oh, now I get it...the Tower Bridge...for the London Symphonies.  I kept thinking, 'I don't remember seeing that thing in Heidelberg.'

Karl Henning

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QuoteHello,

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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot