Little things that annoy you

Started by amw, November 13, 2013, 10:14:55 PM

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amw

Apart from other GMG posters, specific composers' music, etc, of course. ;)

A few that have come to mind recently—

Full-price CDs with 40 minutes of music.
A single undivided span of music being broken up into dozens of tiny tracks. (Stockhausen-Verlag is especially bad with this.)
When composers write "L'istesso tempo" for "Lo stesso tempo".
When someone refers to Beethoven's Seventh as "the apotheosis of the dance".
When performers constantly shake their heads while playing. It's distracting, and always seems affected.

North Star

Full-price CDs with less than 70 minutes of music.
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springrite

The Daphnes et Chloe CD I have of Dutoit/Montreal which has ONE TRACK.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

amw

The Russian site classical-music-online.net often does that. Want to listen to a symphony? One track. An opera? One track. Shostakovich's 24 Preludes and Fugues? Two tracks, if you're lucky.

Sometimes they'll list timings you can skip to underneath, like in youtube videos, but more often not.

Karl Henning

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Fafner

Just about everything.


(but I am working on that)
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springrite

Quote from: Fafner on November 14, 2013, 05:24:53 AM
Just about everything.


(but I am working on that)

Last year it was "absolutely everything", so I see the therapy IS working!
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

mahler10th

Quote from: amw on November 13, 2013, 10:14:55 PM
A single undivided span of music being broken up into dozens of tiny tracks.

Yes.  Completely agree.  Sibelius 7 divided into 4.  Strauss Alpine divided into 21, sometimes 22, sometimes more or less, depends on how smart arsed the compiler thinks he or she is...  Such antics really do get my goat up.   >:(

Karl Henning

Quote from: springrite on November 14, 2013, 05:25:54 AM
Last year it was "absolutely everything", so I see the therapy IS working!

God bless you for that chuckle!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Superhorn

   Nasty music critics who instead of criticizing a performnce they don't like make ad hominem attacks on the performers with cheap shots
and  blanket dismissals of them as artists .
   American trumpeters in orchestras who play  music by quintessentially  Austro-German composers  such as Wagner, Bruckner, Mahler and Richard Struss etc with a  jazzy vibrato  and  coarse,blaring tone instead of the noble and  vibrtoless  tone of  German and Austrian
orchestras .
    People who complain  that all or most orchestras today sound the same , which they don't at all , and long for the supposed
"good old days " when different orchestras hd their own distinctive sound .
    People who long for the supposed "golden age of opera " and  constantly whine about the  supposed "decline of standards of singing ".
Music critics who complain that  today's musicians are  "too literal " in interprettion yet  mercilessly lambaste  them for  taking liberties with the score .

Brian

Quote from: amw on November 13, 2013, 10:14:55 PM
A single undivided span of music being broken up into dozens of tiny tracks. (Stockhausen-Verlag is especially bad with this.)

While I usually appreciate and enjoy that, say, Rachmaninov's Paganini Rhapsody is broken up into one track per variation, it gets annoying on Naxos Music Library where the streaming software loads each track separately and there's often a 4-5 gap between them.

Sammy

CD boxes of performances that were already released; companies such as Sony and RCA do this all the time.  I'd much prefer that they put out a lot more new recordings.

Brian

Quote from: Sammy on November 14, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
CD boxes of performances that were already released; companies such as Sony and RCA do this all the time.  I'd much prefer that they put out a lot more new recordings.

I strongly agree in principle, but in practice, as a 24-year-old who's just receiving his first salaried income and spent his youth mostly discovering music from Naxos/NML, these gigantic doorstop boxes are a fortuitous way for me to fill in the gaping gaps in my collection with 'classic' recordings I wasn't raised on. Up until today I owned zero Perahia; til last month, only the stereo Chopin from Rubinstein; til that dirt-cheap white box rerelease line came up, nothing from Vivarte.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Superhorn on November 14, 2013, 09:39:04 AM
   Nasty music critics who instead of criticizing a performnce they don't like make ad hominem attacks on the performers with cheap shots
and  blanket dismissals of them as artists .
   American trumpeters in orchestras who play  music by quintessentially  Austro-German composers  such as Wagner, Bruckner, Mahler and Richard Struss etc with a  jazzy vibrato  and  coarse,blaring tone instead of the noble and  vibrtoless  tone of  German and Austrian
orchestras .
    People who complain  that all or most orchestras today sound the same , which they don't at all , and long for the supposed
"good old days " when different orchestras hd their own distinctive sound .
    People who long for the supposed "golden age of opera " and  constantly whine about the  supposed "decline of standards of singing ".
Music critics who complain that  today's musicians are  "too literal " in interprettion yet  mercilessly lambaste  them for  taking liberties with the score .

Good post. That's the most things we've ever agreed upon, ever. :)

On the tracks thing, despite there being possibly good reasons for it, 33 tracks for the Diabelli Variations is OTT in my book. I have some Beethoven 9th recordings with 15 or more tracks. It isn't a study score, it's a performance. ::)  Four is all it takes, five at the outside.

Seven or eight re-releases of some performances (that didn't deserve a first release) versus no releases since the original of some really outstanding ones, creating a false sense of what's good and what not.

The surface hasn't been scratched yet, but it is scuffed a little bit.....  >:(

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springrite

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 14, 2013, 04:27:50 PM


The surface hasn't been scratched yet, but it is scuffed a little bit.....  >:(

8)

Someone bring in some heavy duty equipments!

How about that little thing the CD fits onto the box. Those little teeth keep falling off and soon the CD just lay there instead of being bedded, and falls onto the floor when you open the box!
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: springrite on November 14, 2013, 04:56:01 PM
Someone bring in some heavy duty equipments!

How about that little thing the CD fits onto the box. Those little teeth keep falling off and soon the CD just lay there instead of being bedded, and falls onto the floor when you open the box!

Worse yet, it is a double CD and it is the disk on the back side. Grrr....

Or you simply can't get the disk out of the box because it seems like you are bending it in half! No matter how hard you press on the center hub. A couple of times I have actually initiated the condition described in complaint #1 myself in order to just remove the disk! >:(

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Mirror Image

Quote from: springrite on November 13, 2013, 10:21:45 PM
The Daphnes et Chloe CD I have of Dutoit/Montreal which has ONE TRACK.

You must have the older issue of this performance, Paul, because I have the Decca Legends recording and all the tracked are divided (as they should be).

springrite

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 14, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
You must have the older issue of this performance, Paul, because I have the Decca Legends recording and all the tracked are divided (as they should be).
Right, I bought it in the mid-80's when it first came out.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

jochanaan

The fact that almost no classical clarinetist uses vibrato--the only woodwind now not to do so!
Imagination + discipline = creativity

jochanaan

Oh, and the way even writers who should know better write "...reach a crescendo"!  As if the crescendo were the climax, not the buildup! :P
Imagination + discipline = creativity