21st century classical music

[Karl Henning]

Go back and read what I did say carefully.

san anton' does get to roll over this juicy chip for the next round, though!

[San Antone]

Another list of "best" recordings from 2013, this time by Five Against Four

[petrarch]

You always pull the very same Stockhausen card out .. just because it was a curiousity for him during a period of his career won't really change things.

Now this is disappointing. Lumping Momente with the progressively freer works of the end of that decade is outright nonsensical. But I note that none of my questions elicited anything of substance. Oh well... Keep up your copy & pasting; at least that might be considered useful by some and to contain some original thought.

This is just meaningless blah, blah, blah. Taking risks and chances has been inherent to the art form since the beginning, and even of the best of it - intentions are never certain.

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Read again; not very surprisingly, you misunderstood my use of the word 'chance'. Actually, don't bother.

[kishnevi]

Another list of "best" recordings from 2013, this time by Five Against Four

I must admit that the inclusion of Igor/Sir Simon in that list seemed a mite incongruous.  And having read his description of the Phillipe Petit CD, and re-read it, and then re-read it again,  I'm blessed if I really know what he means there (other than he thinks it's a really really really good CD).

[San Antone]

I must admit that I ignored the descriptions and use these lists to checkout some new music.  He does post some decent reviews of live performances of new music on a regular basis, so his blog is not without merit, in general.

I haven't heard all of his recommendations, but will listening to as many as I can find on MOG over these next few days.  The Petit CD is one I have begun to listen to and it is something I will keep in my collection.

[some guy]

Well, by looking at this list, I found out that Zbigniew Karkowski died last month (the 12th) of pancreatic cancer. Only 55.

I blame cigarettes.

I bought the Processor album that he and Xopher Davidson did from Boomkat.

Sigh.

Not a very happy beginning to the new year, for sure.

[San Antone]

Milton Babbitt ~ Partitions

https://www.youtube.com/v/gBa16sM2uaU

John Cage ~ Music of Changes

https://www.youtube.com/v/B_8-B2rNw7s

[Karl Henning]

Klang, means "sound", acoustic vibrations, but for Stockhausen, above all "the INNER EAR, for the divine Klang, the mystic sound of the beyond with the voice of the conscience, in German: die Stimme des Gewissens"

Someone's BS-detector needs new batteries, or to be replaced altogether.

[petrarch]

Quit with the games.

Pffft. The self-appointed Stockhausen guru has zero substance, after all... (but who didn't know that already?)

[San Antone]

Isn't there a thread for Stockhausen already?

James, are you a one trick pony?

[petrarch]

Awww, some ad hominem.

Ha, love it! (QFT, look in the mirror, etc)

In the end, he was a rigorous formal composer ultimately absorbed by shape, sharpness, detail, clarity, unity.. in what he was rehearsing & writing. This includes the uber-complex Momente.

No one disputed that, nor the "uber-complexity" (really?) of Momente. But the unwashed multitudes are still eagerly waiting for a grounded opinion on some of the aspects and qualities you listed and that I summarized in enumeration to assist in getting the discussion going.

This should probably be moved to the Stockhausen thread, with the benefit of raising the s/n ratio there and make it something more worthy than a mere deposit of reviews and concert schedules, while getting this one back on 21st C music.

Unless, of course, this call for a deeper discussion proves to be (once again) a stoic effort and the debate will end here due to no-show.

[San Antone]

Here's a mixcloud playlist of 5:4's "best of".  The first track is a little indie-pop thing but it also includes some good electronic stuff.

http://www.mixcloud.com/5against4/mix-tape-29-best-albums-of-2013/

[Karl Henning]

Ryan Gallagher, Oboe Quartet

https://www.youtube.com/v/c_ATDm7_l24

Disclosure:  the composer is the son of my first composition instructor.

[Karl Henning]

Conclusion to Jack Gallagher's Symphony № 2, « As Sparks Fly Upward »

https://www.youtube.com/v/GypXCoOP84I

Disclosure:  the composer is my first composition instructor.

[petrarch]

5:4

Isn't 5:4 a member of GMG? I recall seeing his 5:4 avatar, but maybe that was on Facebook... In any case, his blog has been a good read. His Dillon's Nine Rivers coverage from a couple of years ago was quite excellent.

EDIT: He was a member indeed.

[petrarch]

Atoning for the longish tangent on this thread, here's some 21st C music (it is quite substantial, though):

Emmanuel Nunes, Das Märchen, Opera in a prologue and two acts, for 9 singers, 5 actors, choir and orchestra with live electronics (2007).

Prologue + Act I:

http://www.youtube.com/v/_BKAgfsLllo

Act II:

http://www.youtube.com/v/xVMnKS8gHM0

[San Antone]

Isn't 5:4 a member of GMG? I recall seeing his 5:4 avatar, but maybe that was on Facebook... In any case, his blog has been a good read. His Dillon's Nine Rivers coverage from a couple of years ago was quite excellent.

EDIT: He was a member indeed.

Yes, I too had remembered him here.   Too bad he decided not to stick around.

[San Antone]

It's frustrating that the few people here who are the most interested in new music spend a lot of time quibbling over methods, composers, etc. 

Maybe in 2014 can we try to spend more time sharing the music and not indulging in these petty disagreements?

[petrarch]

It's frustrating that the few people here who are the most interested in new music spend a lot of time quibbling over methods, composers, etc. 

Maybe in 2014 can we try to spend more time sharing the music and not indulging in these petty disagreements?

My bad; sometimes it is irresistible to give out some rope and see where it all will lead .

[San Antone]

Karin Rehnqvist

https://www.youtube.com/v/7pi36lhIrls

Tentative (Part II) from Beginning (2003) Chamber Ensemble Sonanza / Conductor: Jan Risberg