What are you listening to now?

[Karl Henning]

Дмитрий Дмитриевич [ Dmitri Dmitriyevich (Shostakovich) ]
Струнный квартет № 11 Фа минор, соч. 122 [ String Quartet № 11 in f minor, Opus 122 ] (1966)
The Emerson String Quartet

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[Drasko]

The disc that nearly drove Hyperion intop bankruptcy:

"Jeffrey Skidmore had made an earlier Lalande program for the Gaudeamus label and had worked with the editor of Lalande's music, Lionel Sawkins, for many years. But in making this disc, Hyperion asserted that the copyright of the edition did not require Hyperion to pay for performance rights because Sawkins had added nothing substantial to the source material. The record was made and issued, Sawkins and his publisher sued Hyperion for copyright infringement, and the record was quickly withdrawn. Hyperion lost and paid an enormous amount of damages. "

From wiki:

"In 2004 the company became embroiled in a legal dispute with Lionel Sawkins, a music editor whose editions of works by Michel-Richard de Lalande had been used in Hyperion's recording of the composer's music. Dr. Sawkins sued the company for royalties accruing from his musical copyright in these editions. Hyperion maintained that the editions were not original compositions, and therefore were not subject to copyright and further that Dr. Sawkins did receive payment in the form of a hire fee from the performers for their rental. The case came to court in May 2004 and the judgment went largely in favour of Dr. Sawkins. Hyperion chose to make an appeal in March 2005, in which the court upheld the original judgment. While the damages sought by Dr. Sawkins were thought to be small, the legal costs of the case were estimated to result in a liability to the company of hundreds of thousands of pounds Sterling, making the future of Hyperion Records uncertain at the time.[3] By 2006, Hyperion had received financial support from musicians, consumers, and composers to enable its survival."

Yes, I know all about that unfortunate story.

And on top of that it's a shame because it is really interesting recording, Skidmore has very different (and possibly as convincing) view on Delalande's Te Deum than Christie, much broader (by third) with fuller sounding forces. If the CD can be found used (it was pulled immediately) for less than a fortune I certainly can recommend it.

[Madiel]

Speaking as someone with a law degree, I read that Hyperion judgement and found myself shaking my head at times. It just came across as if the judges knew very little about music.

But then, copyright law is full of unfortunate things in my opinion.

If the judgement is correct then the disc should have been marketed as music composed by Sawkins, not music composed by Lalande. No-one in the classical music world instinctively believes this to be true.

[ZauberdrachenNr.7]

Speaking as someone with a law degree, I read that Hyperion judgement and found myself shaking my head at times. It just came across as if the judges knew very little about music.

But then, copyright law is full of unfortunate things in my opinion.

If the judgement is correct then the disc should have been marketed as music composed by Sawkins, not music composed by Lalande. No-one in the classical music world instinctively believes this to be true.

Thanks, Orfeo, New Erato & Drasko for a very interesting discussion about something I knew nothing of!  Surely Sawkins must have added to or amended something in the Te Deum to make it his?!$*.   Reminds me a bit of the guy who tried to take over the famous Pennsylvania Railroad keystone trademark, claiming that it was now his (he claimed it!) and anyone who uses it henceforth (on model trains, artwork, etc.) must pay him a royalty.  My daughter has a law degree - in vain did I beg her to take intellectual property - she would not touch it, saying that patents, copyright and trademarks require more knowledge and background than a typical attorney is able to muster (esp. patents).  It's also interesting to me because I think that - consciously or not - one of the reasons some of us turn to classical music is as an oasis from this sort of quotidian quarrel.  And here we are smack dab in the kind of sordid, real world, fray from which we sought deliverance.   

Edit: Amazon has several dealers offering the disk at slightly over $100.

[SonicMan46]

Mendelssohn - Chamber Works from the recordings below - Dave

 

[Ken B]

Norbert Burgmueller, Symphony 1

[Sergeant Rock]

Among the listening so far today...

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Symphony No.83, 'The Hen'. Dare I ask the Bear-haters if the Hen is more acceptable?

Marginally    But I do prefer the opening faster, fiercer, with stronger accents and more prominent horns, e.g., Fey, Harnoncourt, Weil. It's fine to relax into the second subject but the opening should have a strong "Sturm und Drang" character before the chickens come home to roost 

Sarge

[Sergeant Rock]

Haydn Symphony No.83 G minor  "La Poule"




Sarge

[Harry]

Compositions for Wind instruments by a composer which you guys call Papa.

http://walboi.blogspot.nl/2014/08/haydn-joseph-divertimentos-for-wind.html?spref=tw

[Karl Henning]

We, and Mozart, too 

[Karl Henning]

Дмитрий Дмитриевич [ Dmitri Dmitriyevich (Shostakovich) ]
Струнный квартет № 11 Фа минор, соч. 122 [ String Quartet № 11 in f minor, Opus 122 ] (1966)
The Pacifica String Quartet

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[Mandryka]

Gregorian style Christmas chanting. This is very, very, very intense.

[Karl Henning]

Good on ya!

[Ken B]

Norbert Burgmueller, Symphony 1

Norbert Burgmueller, Piano Sonata. Like this considerably more than symphony 1.

[Brian]

The Gal is an interesting piece, and the Schumann gets a spunky performance, full of energy and untamed trombones, which makes it sound like youthful Schubert.

Norbert Burgmueller, Piano Sonata. Like this considerably more than symphony 1.

Burgmuller's orchestral music is rather plain, I'm afraid. There's a piano concerto in a weird key, as I recall, but the key is the most interesting part.

[Drasko]

Speaking as someone with a law degree, I read that Hyperion judgement and found myself shaking my head at times. It just came across as if the judges knew very little about music.

But then, copyright law is full of unfortunate things in my opinion.

If the judgement is correct then the disc should have been marketed as music composed by Sawkins, not music composed by Lalande. No-one in the classical music world instinctively believes this to be true.

Thanks, Orfeo, New Erato & Drasko for a very interesting discussion about something I knew nothing of!  Surely Sawkins must have added to or amended something in the Te Deum to make it his?!$*.   Reminds me a bit of the guy who tried to take over the famous Pennsylvania Railroad keystone trademark, claiming that it was now his (he claimed it!) and anyone who uses it henceforth (on model trains, artwork, etc.) must pay him a royalty.  My daughter has a law degree - in vain did I beg her to take intellectual property - she would not touch it, saying that patents, copyright and trademarks require more knowledge and background than a typical attorney is able to muster (esp. patents).  It's also interesting to me because I think that - consciously or not - one of the reasons some of us turn to classical music is as an oasis from this sort of quotidian quarrel.  And here we are smack dab in the kind of sordid, real world, fray from which we sought deliverance.   

Edit: Amazon has several dealers offering the disk at slightly over $100.

To the best of my recollection, and I'm too lazy to look it up now again, Sawkins' claims seemed not that illogical to me back then. They went somewhat along the lines that preparing modern performing edition out of 17th century prints and manuscripts often written as sort of short score (single melodic line with basso continuo) is serious and definitely creative work and that he should get copyrights from the recordings using his performing edition rather than just a renting fee. Or something like that, can't really remember.

How did the trial exactly work out for him in the end I don't know, but what I do know is that there haven't been any major Delalande recordings since then. 


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[Karl Henning]

Feldman
Coptic Light (1985)
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
Peter Eötvös

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[Ken B]

Burgmuller's orchestral music is rather plain, I'm afraid. There's a piano concerto in a weird key, as I recall, but the key is the most interesting part.

Yes. After hearing it I was tempted to PM Florestan for the name of his supplier 
But the piano music I do like so far.

[Karl Henning]

Mennin
Symphony № 8 (1973)
Columbus Symphony Orchestra
Christian Badea

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[Florestan]

Norbert Burgmueller, Piano Sonata.

Exquisite music indeed. The slow movement is extraordinary. I've had it on repeat several times today.