Quiz: Mystery scores

[EigenUser]

You are right, and I should have thought of old Frank too. And don't get me wrong, the Juilliard store is terrific as far as inventory goes. With the new remodeling of Lincoln Center, the store is also far more easy to negotiate than the older and more cramped facility ever was. But Patelson for a long time gave discounts (10% back in the day, 5% more recently, and I can't recall if they eventually stopped discounting altogether), and was much more browser-friendly than Frank's was as I recall. (Patelson's had its quirky personalities, but my one visit to Frank's IIRC was so disagreeable that I vowed never to return. Unlike Patelson's, they were also closed on weekends.) And reviews on Yelp complain that Frank's also inflates prices beyond list. At this point I am more likely to turn to sheetmusicplus.com for my score orders (not that I buy as much lately; I'm very glad I bought most of my music years ago when prices were a little less insane).

I'm still working up the courage to buy a volume of Des Canyons aux Etoiles.... I NEED to have this piece, even if I acquire it volume-by-volume.

I just checked the prices at Frank's and they are ridiculous. Vingt Regards... is going for $125 -- list price is $85. I know a place where I can get it for $60 (online), if I remember correctly. Bartok's Mandarin is going for $100 -- list price is around $60, I think.

[Luke]

Those prices are ridiculous. I got Vingt Regards for around £30 IIRC, though that was around 20 years ago. Mandarin can't have been more than £10 - that was even further back in the mists of time.

Over this way, Brian Jordan's, the heavenly music shop in Cambridge (UK) that I have reminisced about, misty-eyed, many times over the years, including a within the last couple of months, is now just another tourist cafe, I discovered on Saturday. That is the shop where I got hold most of my most super-bargain price Messiaen such as that £30 VR, or Turangalila for £20, Chronochromie and EERM for less than that each, and all 3 volumes of Canyons for something ridiculous, for a start. Now all the outlets I haunted in my student days are gone. I feel very sad, very old, and very out of touch!

[Guido]

I missed all the excitement! Drat!

Some more clues to mine
G1: well if none of those instruments are playing, then what is left? And we know it's right at the beginning of the score... And 4/8 what might that suggest... The key might help too...

G3:A much less well known Strauss score (which may tell you something about its period), but this section is possibly the most beautiful piece of music in it. There is a big text direction that should be helpful for tracking it down.

G4:This is the outro of one of the most famous (and beautiful) arias of all time... Who could be guilty of this sort of scoring?

[Guido]

And Luke, yes, Brian Jordan's shutting down is extremely sad... heartbreaking.

[EigenUser]

And Luke, yes, Brian Jordan's shutting down is extremely sad... heartbreaking.

It's sad to me, too, and I've only heard of it from you guys. It's a rarity to find a brick-and-mortar music store that stocks enough scores to be able to have fun browsing. Ordering online is no fun.

Clues to my scribbling:
1. This is the opening. Hum it (slowly) or play it on piano -- you'll recognize it.
2. This was overshadowed by a more famous piece.
5. Again -- hum it and you will recognize it, I think.
7. This is the first violin part of the last two measures.
13. Sounds as big as I wrote it. It always startles me when it starts -- especially since it comes after the fading-away previous movement.

[amw]

Other than the Ligeti VC, all of these are correct.

Ligeti PC/iv. Whatever. Same difference. :<

(I'm actually digitising all of my Ligeti CDs right now, that is to say 5 volumes of the Sony Ligeti Edition and 4 volumes of the Teldec Ligeti Project. Don't know why I never bothered to do that earlier. They've been sitting in storage in a shipping container for like... 6 months)

[EigenUser]

Ligeti PC/iv. Whatever. Same difference. :<

(I'm actually digitising all of my Ligeti CDs right now, that is to say 5 volumes of the Sony Ligeti Edition and 4 volumes of the Teldec Ligeti Project. Don't know why I never bothered to do that earlier. They've been sitting in storage in a shipping container for like... 6 months)

Haha, I had to read that three times because I thought you said "digesting".

It's Ligeti. Not spaghetti.

Oh, and yeah. It's the PC, 4th movement. "Boiled eggs". Or "I got rhythm".

[(poco) Sforzando]

It's sad to me, too, and I've only heard of it from you guys. It's a rarity to find a brick-and-mortar music store that stocks enough scores to be able to have fun browsing. Ordering online is no fun.

Clues to my scribbling:
1. This is the opening. Hum it (slowly) or play it on piano -- you'll recognize it.
2. This was overshadowed by a more famous piece.
5. Again -- hum it and you will recognize it, I think.
7. This is the first violin part of the last two measures.
13. Sounds as big as I wrote it. It always startles me when it starts -- especially since it comes after the fading-away previous movement.

5 is from the harp part in the opening movement of Agon. I won't tell you how I got this one - serendipity perhaps - but it wasn't from humming.

[EigenUser]

5 is from the harp part in the opening movement of Agon. I won't tell you how I got this one - serendipity perhaps - but it wasn't from humming.

Good. Well, I was thinking of the mandolin part when I wrote this out, but they double each other.

[EigenUser]

Two more pages. Some of these are very easy. Halfway through writing it out I realized that 26 should start on an 'E' (all other pitches relative to the 'E').

23 is one of my favorite lyrical lines. Ever.

19 has a clue nearby (in the math, actually).

21 might be difficult because I don't remember how it is written out exactly. amw thinks very highly of this piece, if I remember correctly (so do I, for that matter).

EDIT: They are showing up upside-down, so you'll have to right-click "view image" to get it right-side up.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Two more pages. Some of these are very easy. Halfway through writing it out I realized that 26 should start on an 'E' (all other pitches relative to the 'E').

23 is one of my favorite lyrical lines. Ever.

19 has a clue nearby (in the math, actually).

21 might be difficult because I don't remember how it is written out exactly. amw thinks very highly of this piece, if I remember correctly (so do I, for that matter).

EDIT: They are showing up upside-down, so you'll have to right-click "view image" to get it right-side up.

You've got to remember, any time you say something is really easy, it's guaranteed that people will find it really hard - especially since without tempo markings and context, the answers don't pop out so readily.

That said, I get these four right away:
18 - Bruckner 6
25 - Scherzo Mahler 7
26 - Debussy La Mer
27 - Brahms Double

[EigenUser]

You've got to remember, any time you say something is really easy, it's guaranteed that people will find it really hard - especially since without tempo markings and context, the answers don't pop out so readily.

That said, I get these four right away:
18 - Bruckner 6
25 - Scherzo Mahler 7
26 - Debussy La Mer
27 - Brahms Double

Yes to all four.

Maybe a better way for me to put it is to say that if these scores were posted as full pages, you would get them all for sure. There's nothing unusual/obscure.

[amw]

17 - Asyla
19 - Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta
21 - Hamburg Concerto (yes, I do)
22 - Trois petites liturgies, I think
24 - Dance Suite

[EigenUser]

17 - Asyla
19 - Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta
21 - Hamburg Concerto (yes, I do)
22 - Trois petites liturgies, I think
24 - Dance Suite

All correct. The hint for the MSPC was the example of a "plucked violin string" just above it. This is that section in the second movement where the whole orchestra has pizzicato.

[Luke]

Got here too late again, but 23 is Schoenberg op 9

[Maciek]

Hi Guido!

How's geology?

Maciek 176- is it lutoslawski?

Nope.

Not that it simplifies matters much, but I've expanded the illustration. It now contains both of the two last pages of the score.

[Maciek]

I've replaced the image for 164 with a better transcription.

[listener]

Eigenuser no. 20 (that was a clue?)  ELGAR Serenade for Strings, op. 20

[EigenUser]

Eigenuser no. 20 (that was a clue?)  ELGAR Serenade for Strings, op. 20

Yes! But the '20' was a coincidence! I didn't know the opus number.

Still missing 1, 2, 7, 14, and 15. I'll give answers soon if no one gets them.

[listener]

1 looks like it might be Rachmaninoff Symphony no.2, 4th mvt