21st century classical music

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chadfeldheimer

Quote from: milk on November 18, 2014, 02:55:14 AM
I was really impressed by this. I bought this last night and listened on the train today. I'm new to this composer. There's a lot happening here and I need to listen again. I wish I had a chance to see something like this live.   

Great recording indeed. For me a serious contender for the greatest classical composition from the 21th century so far (if the year 2000, when it was composed belongs to the 21th and not the 20th century of course).

milk

Quote from: chadfeldheimer on November 18, 2014, 09:42:32 AM
Great recording indeed. For me a serious contender for the greatest classical composition from the 21th century so far (if the year 2000, when it was composed belongs to the 21th and not the 20th century of course).
Yes, I was hoping to sneak by with the year of composition.

chadfeldheimer

Quote from: milk on November 18, 2014, 01:25:18 PM
Yes, I was hoping to sneak by with the year of composition.
;D I read that Haas revisited "in vain" in 2002, so in this regard it is a proper 21st century composition.

bhodges

Quote from: milk on November 18, 2014, 02:55:14 AM
I was really impressed by this. I bought this last night and listened on the train today. I'm new to this composer. There's a lot happening here and I need to listen again. I wish I had a chance to see something like this live.   


It's a marvelous piece, and yes, it's fantastic live. At several points during the duration, Haas instructs the lights to be gradually lowered, into total darkness (including the musicians, who must memorize the music and play without being able to see the conductor). I saw it a few years ago here at the Park Avenue Armory (a huge, football field-sized space) and it was quite an experience.

--Bruce

milk


I've really become attached to this recording. I find myself listening to it often. It's not super challenging or grand. It has a unassuming charm and it's full of catchy melodies.

Peter Power Pop

Quote from: milk on November 18, 2014, 02:55:14 AM
I was really impressed by this. I bought this last night and listened on the train today. I'm new to this composer. There's a lot happening here and I need to listen again. I wish I had a chance to see something like this live.   


Quote from: chadfeldheimer on November 18, 2014, 09:42:32 AM
Great recording indeed. For me a serious contender for the greatest classical composition from the 21th century so far (if the year 2000, when it was composed belongs to the 21th and not the 20th century of course).

Quote from: Brewski on November 19, 2014, 12:39:35 PM
It's a marvelous piece, and yes, it's fantastic live. At several points during the duration, Haas instructs the lights to be gradually lowered, into total darkness (including the musicians, who must memorize the music and play without being able to see the conductor). I saw it a few years ago here at the Park Avenue Armory (a huge, football field-sized space) and it was quite an experience.

--Bruce

And here it is:

George Friedrich Haas - In Vain
(Klangforum Wien, conducted by Sylvain Cambreling)
http://www.youtube.com/v/9PtJH63D0YY

Amazon.com

Peter Power Pop

Quote from: milk on November 21, 2014, 10:16:34 PM

I've really become attached to this recording. I find myself listening to it often. It's not super challenging or grand. It has a unassuming charm and it's full of catchy melodies.

Sarah Cahill plays "Pattern B" from the Seventh Collection of Patterns of Plants at the Berkeley Arts Festival performance space:

https://www.youtube.com/v/soKGLdWlRpc

Pinna Records

Peter Power Pop


milk


Peter Power Pop

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Quote from: milk on November 22, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
I listened to this on the train the other day and enjoyed it much. Thanks for the videos.

No problem. After listening to those snippets, I'm mighty interested in hearing the whole thing.

torut

Quote from: milk on November 21, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
I've really become attached to this recording. I find myself listening to it often. It's not super challenging or grand. It has a unassuming charm and it's full of catchy melodies.

Quote from: Peter Power Pop on November 22, 2014, 03:48:11 PM
Sarah Cahill plays "Pattern B" from the Seventh Collection of Patterns of Plants at the Berkeley Arts Festival performance space:

https://www.youtube.com/v/soKGLdWlRpc

Pinna Records
It's very nice. I like the earlier albums of Patterns of Plants (different tunings, different instruments), but I feel that the piano version is more intimate. The melodies are catchy, but there is something unpredictable that makes repeated listening interesting.

milk

Quote from: torut on November 24, 2014, 12:22:39 AM
It's very nice. I like the earlier albums of Patterns of Plants (different tunings, different instruments), but I feel that the piano version is more intimate. The melodies are catchy, but there is something unpredictable that makes repeated listening interesting.
I find myself coming back to this music much more than I thought I would. Initially, I thought it was just mediocre. But now I think it's got real charm. I also agree with whoever said it's got a baroque quality, maybe like Rameau's keyboard music in an odd way.

torut

Keeril Makan (b. 1972)

The Noise Between Thoughts (2003)
https://www.youtube.com/v/2QWsbq-D6JI

Washed By Fire (2007)
https://www.youtube.com/v/kBhRxeonw4Q

In Sound
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The Noise Between Thoughts, Washed By Fire, for string quartet - Kronos Quartet
Threads - Paul Dresher Ensemble Electro-Acoustic Band

The Noise Between Thoughts strongly reminded me of the string quartets of Lachenmann. As the album title may be suggesting, the focus of this work and Threads seems the sound itself. By contrast, Washed By Fire is a very melodic piece in a sorrow mood. A beautiful, grand work. I was very impressed by Makan's works on this album. I just listened to Afterglow (works for chamber ensemble, solo piano, solo violin), which is also quite good. Experimental and lyrical elements are balanced very well.

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milk


Patterns of plants peaked my interest in this composer so I purchased this recording. So far I'm feeling that there is much to be discovered in this music. Sometimes music takes me a while to get into but I enjoyed this right away. It's quite different than Patterns, very different Cahill's recording of patterns. This is ceremonial, dark sometimes, but also imaginative and meditative.

torut

Quote from: milk on November 26, 2014, 01:58:54 AM

Patterns of plants peaked my interest in this composer so I purchased this recording. So far I'm feeling that there is much to be discovered in this music. Sometimes music takes me a while to get into but I enjoyed this right away. It's quite different than Patterns, very different Cahill's recording of patterns. This is ceremonial, dark sometimes, but also imaginative and meditative.
I didn't know this. I thought the other works of Fujieda may be even sweeter than Patterns of Plants (I suspected he used the plants' electrical signals to make his music more abstract), but this is vey different as you described. The chants and just intonation synthesizer create a nice, calming mood, with interesting sonority. Very good.

milk

Quote from: torut on November 26, 2014, 07:15:35 PM
I didn't know this. I thought the other works of Fujieda may be even sweeter than Patterns of Plants (I suspected he used the plants' electrical signals to make his music more abstract), but this is vey different as you described. The chants and just intonation synthesizer create a nice, calming mood, with interesting sonority. Very good.
I'm interested myself in making a bunch of music that sounds like it's for some weird ceremony. This has that effect - which is nice because it suggests a possible world. I'm following him on Facebook and have noticed that he met Terry Riley in Tokyo for a concert by the latter (just by the way). I would have went...maybe... It's so hard to find out about these kinds of concerts (just found out my friends wife, an avant garde pianist, will perform Feldman with an ensemble in January in Kyoto! Yay!). 

petrarch

Going through a bunch of CDs I recently got from Kairos, primarily by spanish composers. All quite worthwhile. Listening to this now, definitely worth checking out:

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The music collection.
The hi-fi system: Esoteric X-03SE -> Pathos Logos -> Analysis Audio Amphitryon.
A view of the whole

torut

Quote from: milk on November 27, 2014, 12:19:58 AM
I'm interested myself in making a bunch of music that sounds like it's for some weird ceremony. This has that effect - which is nice because it suggests a possible world. I'm following him on Facebook and have noticed that he met Terry Riley in Tokyo for a concert by the latter (just by the way). I would have went...maybe... It's so hard to find out about these kinds of concerts (just found out my friends wife, an avant garde pianist, will perform Feldman with an ensemble in January in Kyoto! Yay!).
Actually it (especially Night Chant III) immediately reminded me of your music.
I read some reviews of Riley's recent concert in Japan. Most people say that, although Riley's performance was wonderful, the place was terrible: most of the audience needed to stand up during the whole concert and couldn't even see him because of its long and narrow space, except for a few invited people who were given chairs in front of the stage. :D
Which Feldman pieces will be performed in Kyoto?

milk

Quote from: torut on November 27, 2014, 01:56:55 PM
Actually it (especially Night Chant III) immediately reminded me of your music.
I read some reviews of Riley's recent concert in Japan. Most people say that, although Riley's performance was wonderful, the place was terrible: most of the audience needed to stand up during the whole concert and couldn't even see him because of its long and narrow space, except for a few invited people who were given chairs in front of the stage. :D
Which Feldman pieces will be performed in Kyoto?
Yes, my girlfriend roughly translated an explanation of this by Fujieda that he posted on Facebook. I guess people complained but he chose the place because it was somehow connected to Riley's political views (or supported him somehow or his anti-Iraq war stance?)? My friend's wife will perform "Why Patterns?" I suggested they look at Feldman because they needed a relatively short piece for percussion, flute and piano - although most of his pieces are much longer of course. I've been sort of trying to get her to play Feldman. She performs a lot of French contemporary piano stuff at museums in conjunction with visiting composers.   
Has anyone checked out the new NPR podcast called Meet the Composer? I listened to their show on J.L. Adams today. Interesting!
http://www.wqxr.org/#!/story/john-luther-adams-poor-career-choices-finding-home-alaska/

torut

Quote from: milk on November 28, 2014, 06:48:11 AM
Yes, my girlfriend roughly translated an explanation of this by Fujieda that he posted on Facebook. I guess people complained but he chose the place because it was somehow connected to Riley's political views (or supported him somehow or his anti-Iraq war stance?)?
It seems minimal/postminimal composers tend to be proactive in delivering political / social messages. (Reich, Glass, Nyman, J. C. Adams, J. L. Adams, ...)

QuoteMy friend's wife will perform "Why Patterns?" I suggested they look at Feldman because they needed a relatively short piece for percussion, flute and piano - although most of his pieces are much longer of course. I've been sort of trying to get her to play Feldman. She performs a lot of French contemporary piano stuff at museums in conjunction with visiting composers.
That sounds interesting. I have not heard any Feldman's music in a concert. I want to hear a solo piano piece live sometime.