Hindemith & Shostakovich Violin Concertos

[snyprrr]

Hindemith

Oistrakh/Hindemith (Decca)
Gertler/Ancerl (Supraphon)
-/Goossens (Everest)
premiere (-)
Stern/Bernstein (SONY)

Zimmermann/Jarvi (BIS)
Midori/Eschenbach (Ondine)
Tortelier/- (Chandos)
Olding/- (CPO)


I've only ever had the cherished Stern, so Alpine!,- the slowest central movement on record. Current;y, it seems like a battle between Zimmermann and Midori (both of whom sound pretty awesome- Midori especially zippy). I'm thinky about Zimmermann, because of the EMajor Violin Sonata. What do you think?


Shostakovich Op.99   + Op.129...

Oistrakh 1
Oistrakh 2
Oistrakh 3 + ...

...don't have list in front...

Mordkovich                         Repin? (has some very fast timings!)
Vengerov
Spivakov
Kogan/M.Shostakovich- the samples here sounded great
Ilya Kaler
FPZimmermann?

...oh, I forget... I think I got Spivakov because PenguinGuide told me to- I think it said it was marginally better than Mordkovich? (which won the Grammy)

[snyprrr]

waaah!

Does anyone know where Spivakov stands? I just can't fault the performance, or recording, but I wonder if there's something I'm missing, elsewhere. Vergerov seems like the most likely choice, but I'm drawn to Kogan/M.Shostakovich on Delos, for some reason.

I need quality sound, and I need that super weepy violin- or- whatever! Something totally off the wall might work. Repin is still a curiosity here in No.1.

waaah!

[Karl Henning]

Repin's out on the raft with tha Harry Collier guy . . . .

[snyprrr]

Repin's out on the raft with tha Harry Collier guy . . . .

I think Repin's getting the nod for Op.77. How about the 2nd VC? I can't believe the madness that has overtaken me concerning Late DSCH. I think I consider DSCH how others consider LvB, or 'Freebird'. IF I need 'It'- and that's a mighty big 'if'- DSCH is the one that I would go to (for Cello Concertos written in 'normal' music, for instance; or, for that weepy, broody thing that only he seems to have mastered (who else broods like him?)).

Vengerov/Nagano seems like a no brainer.

Midori seems to have hands too tiny- but she sure can cut loose!


btw- who do you have in the Hindemith? Have you checked out the BIS with PF Zimmermann?

[snyprrr]

I'm finally listening to my Sitovetsky Op.77 (Virgin), and I can see how there can be MORE to be expected here. The othe Threadster said Sitovetsky was somewhat routine, and I can hear how I'd like More-Total-Angst.

No one has Mordkovitch?


And why does eeeveryone always criticize every version of VC2, as if no one's playing it correctly??

[snyprrr]

I'm finally listening to my Sitovetsky Op.77 (Virgin), and I can see how there can be MORE to be expected here. The othe Threadster said Sitovetsky was somewhat routine, and I can hear how I'd like More-Total-Angst.

No one has Mordkovitch?


And why does eeeveryone always criticize every version of VC2, as if no one's playing it correctly??

Violin Concerto No.1 Op.77

Sitkovetsky
Repin
Vengerov
Erxleben


Finally got around to VC1,... ahhh, yes, comfort food,...

...spending most of the time in the 'Passacaglia', so far I'm bowled over by Repin's apparent triple-stops, so creamy and full and smooth. Sitkovetsky is also fat toned, but the recording is marginally farther away. Vengerov is Big & Romantic. And Erxleben's 20min. account, newly acquired, might take some getting used to,... it's twice as slow as Repin, but, ... mm... I don't know what to make of it yet...

The high points of the 'Passacaglia' are just soooo poignant and tragic and heroic and... ahhhh, ... mmm...



Sitkovetsky  has the best bass drum, btw...

[kishnevi]

I'm finally listening to my Sitovetsky Op.77 (Virgin), and I can see how there can be MORE to be expected here. The othe Threadster said Sitovetsky was somewhat routine, and I can hear how I'd like More-Total-Angst.

No one has Mordkovitch?


And why does eeeveryone always criticize every version of VC2, as if no one's playing it correctly??

I just got it. Based on the initial hearing,  she plays it similar to Oistrakh, which is to be expected:  he was her mentor/teacher.


You want angst? Mania? Demonic possession of the soloist?

[aukhawk]

The high points of the 'Passacaglia' are just soooo poignant and tragic and heroic and... ahhhh, ... mmm...

Oistrakh on YouTube is fabulous.  What a stage presence!  He treats his bow like a blunt instrument.  (Not really of course, that's just how it looks - brutal.)

[snyprrr]

Oistrakh on YouTube is fabulous.  What a stage presence!  He treats his bow like a blunt instrument.  (Not really of course, that's just how it looks - brutal.)

are those triple or quad stops???

[Scion7]

Can't be of much help here as I have not searched out many recordings of either.  I found ones I liked and just stuck with 'em.  :-)