Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben

Started by Mirror Image, December 23, 2015, 06:02:19 PM

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Which tone poem do you prefer?

Eine Alpensinfonie, Op. 64
13 (65%)
Ein Heldenleben, Op. 40
7 (35%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: April 01, 2016, 07:04:58 PM

Mirror Image



Strauss Tone Poem Death Match Time!!!

Let's rip 'em a part guys! ;D

Todd

I run hot and cold on Strauss tone poems, but here Heldenleben is the clear winner.
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Sergeant Rock

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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Abuelo Igor

I prefer Also sprach Zarathustra to both of them, but, if forced to choose, Heldenleben wins hands down. I've always had the feeling that many of the people who dislike it do so because of the concept, which they find narcissistic, without paying any attention to the music itself. Strauss is the victim of so many preconceptions that I wouldn't even know where to begin.
L'enfant, c'est moi.

Mirror Image

I picked Eine Alpinesinfonie, but I love Ein Heldenleben just about as much. I suppose what made me choose Eine Alpensinfonie was the fact that this was the first work of Strauss' that I heard that made a strong impression on me from the start. Also, I had bought a DVD documentary/concert called Discovering Masterpieces of Classical Music, which had a musical break-down (each movement getting analyzed) of Alpensinfonie and a performance led by Sinopoli conducting the Staatskapelle Dresden. This DVD also helped me understand the brilliance of the work.



Lisztianwagner

"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Brahmsian

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on December 24, 2015, 02:33:35 AM
No contest: Alpensinfonie

Sarge

It is a tough one, for me.  Love both of these, but.....I must chose:


Mirror Image


Jaakko Keskinen

No egoistic orchestral bombing, however divinely beautiful, can surpass the solemn beauty of the Alps!
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Abuelo Igor

Quote from: Alberich on December 27, 2015, 04:26:06 AM
No egoistic orchestral bombing, however divinely beautiful, can surpass the solemn beauty of the Alps!

See what I mean?  :)

If he had called the piece any other way, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
L'enfant, c'est moi.

Jaakko Keskinen

Quote from: Abuelo Igor on December 29, 2015, 08:07:44 AM
See what I mean?  :)

If he had called the piece any other way, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I was making a joke. I don't consider Heldenleben particularly narcissistic and I'm glad it was the first tone poem of his that I heard. But I still like Alpensinfonie a bit more.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

madaboutmahler

Tough one and I'd give you a different answer on different days I guess but Heldenleben.
Find it personally a bit more moving in a subtle way. And the battle scene is just the best  ;D
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— Ludwig van Beethoven

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Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

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